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Haydon85 Posted - 06/08/2013 : 22:08:49
Hi can anyone please give me some advice I have 12 corns of various ages and have had problems with 3 of them regurging their food, it started with a male I have had for about 2 years he had never regurged till about 2 months ago and since then he has regurged 3 times and refused to eat twice, after first regurge I left him for almost 2 weeks and then fed him smaller prey he was fine for 4 days then I woke up to find a undigested mouse in the tank, mouse tail still complete. He has lost a lot of weight then yesterday and tonight I have found again one of my other males have regurged and a female ( not sure which one as have 3 females in one tank) have regurged it seems strange that 3 have regurged please if anyone could suggest what this could b I would b very grateful of any help ? Thankyou
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Haydon85 Posted - 07/08/2013 : 10:24:18
Thanks I will give them all 10 days then feed all of them on new mice till then I have put all snakes on retro boost in water and just leaving them all alone for now it could be the mice I have been using a new supplier let's hope so I really don't wanna b taking my whole collection of snakes to the vets it will be bloody expensive and also not easy I have rather a lot . :( thanks xx
Coal Posted - 07/08/2013 : 10:15:03
Don't worry about the male pining for the female; corn snakes are entirely solitary animals and, while they don't object to the presence of other corns, they don't enjoy, want or need it (except for actually mating, obviously) and keeping snakes apart is usually advised, (though there's usually no harm in keeping females together so long as you're careful:) )

You've done the right thing separating them all for the time-being anyway. It would be strange for parasites to be the cause when none of your snakes are new, but not impossible; have you got any other new animals recently? I personally still think a bad batch of mice is more likely - maybe get a new batch and try those (after you've given all snakes that have regurged a 10 day rest, obviously) and if the problem stops, you'll have your answer :)

If parasites are the problem, I would suggest going to a vet, and yes, personally I would treat the whole lot; some of your snakes might be more resistant to it than others and carry it without showing symptoms, then pass it back to the others, or they may be harbouring it and just haven't started showing symptoms yet

Best of luck :)
Haydon85 Posted - 07/08/2013 : 10:07:23
Ok everyone thanks, none of my snakes are new, the nale that has lost weight etc was with my 1 female during breeding season and I have had a batch of healthy eggs from the female I removed him from the female about 3 months ago and did wonder maybe if he was still pineing for her but don't want to over breed my male or my females and I don't feel any more of my females are of a good size to breed this year so kept him alone. Also I never keep males together ( was told not too???) So both males who are regurging I do know which ones and the females I will rub up and keep separte for a while till I get rid of any problems. If it is parasites is this easy to treat and would it b treating the whole lot ? Thanks again for help everyone x
Haydon85 Posted - 07/08/2013 : 09:37:31
Ok everyone thanks, none of my snakes are new, the nale that has lost weight etc was with my 1 female during breeding season and I have had a batch of healthy eggs from the female I removed him from the female about 3 months ago and did wonder maybe if he was still pineing for her but don't want to over breed my male or my females and I don't feel any more of my females are of a good size to breed this year so kept him alone. Also I never keep males together ( was told not too???) So both males who are regurging I do know which ones and the females I will rub up and keep separte for a while till I get rid of any problems. If it is parasites is this easy to treat and would it b treating the whole lot ? Thanks again for help everyone x
Coal Posted - 07/08/2013 : 08:51:24
Sounds like a bad batch of mice if nothing else had changed and numerous snakes are regurging. I agree with Smart Bunny though; I would separate the three females, at least until this regurging stops, also because if it's some sort of gut infection it could easily spread from one snake to another via the regurgitated food.
Razee Posted - 07/08/2013 : 08:48:27
+ 1 on what smart bunny's already said. Bare in mind that any new snake you bring in could have brought an illness/ parasites with them, but himself might not be affected. If your snake's loosing weight, and has had a problem for a while, I'd take it to the vets - especially as a couple more now seem to be affected.

It could well be a batch of dodgy mice - but you can find out easily, if it is, by buying from a different source, and trying the snakes on those.

Just to be on a safe side, I'd be very, very careful, separating the affected snakes, and making sure you keep your hands washed before and after attending to any of them, and dealing with the healthy snakes first, then the ill ones. That way, if the ones that regurged are ill, you can help stop spreading it to the other sankes you have.

Hope it helps, and everything turns out to be just a dodgy mice case...
smart bunny Posted - 07/08/2013 : 07:34:28
Is the male that's losing weight on it's own or sharing a viv, and if so how long for? Just wondering if you have introduced another snake relatively recently it may be due to stress? I would also be getting him to the vet if he has regurged several times and is losing weight and get him checked for parasites. Have you bought any new snakes recently?

You also need to separate the 3 females and treat all 3 as if they were the one which regurged, ie wait 10 days then feed a smaller prey item. If you keep them together and there is another regurge next time you will have no way of knowing if it is the same snake or a different one, but at least they are separate you will know which one to keep an eye on moving forwards.

Hopefully it was a bad batch of mice or something and you don't get a recurrence, I hope all your snakes are OK.
Haydon85 Posted - 06/08/2013 : 23:37:04
Always defrost in a sandwich bag of warm waterand feed straight away all snakes having same batch of mice but will get some from another place next time and defrost at room temp give that a go thanks x x
LukeW Posted - 06/08/2013 : 23:10:16
Could be a bad batch of mice or change the way you defrost then? Anythings worth a shot

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