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Posted - 26/11/2010 :  14:40:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've just acquired a couple of cornsnakes, and I think one of them may be obsese...as I have never met a fat snake before I just want to see if anyone else has advice on whether I'm right...it takes alot of effort to make a snake obese!
This snake has poor coiling ability and a very squishy (the technical term!) ventral surface....like I say, I've never met an obese snake before so I am open to any other suggestions as to what it could be, it seems like a normal cornsnake in every other way. Also the previous owners told me that the 2nd snake, who feels like a fit and healthy cornsnake to me, does not eat quite as much as the squishy one.

They are both female, 5 years old, about 5 foot long....

Thanks in advance for any hints and tips :)

Sta~ple
qeeun speler

United Kingdom
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Posted - 26/11/2010 :  14:49:09  Show Profile  Click to see Sta~ple's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
It doesn't take any effort to make a snake obese since they are pigs!

Any idea on weight? Anything about 1kg is obese I would say unless it was like 6ft+



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tehbunneh
Hatchling

United Kingdom
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Posted - 26/11/2010 :  15:28:35  Show Profile  Visit tehbunneh's Homepage  Send tehbunneh an AOL message  Click to see tehbunneh's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
There is a thread somewhere that has a very good diagram for working out whether your snake is obese. Basically, the best way for them to look is like a loaf of bread in cross-section, if you can imagine what your snake looks like with a cross-section cut. Anything that looks like a round or slightly squashed sausage is obese, and if they look like a toblerone, that's underweight. I have four snakes, one of which came to me close to toblerone shape, though he has kinks, so I'm wondering if that has something to do with it, then I have two perfect big loaves of bread snakes, and one that is a slightly rounded loaf of bread, close to a sausage; he has since been down-graded to one mouse per week, rather then two. It doesn't take much to build them up too much, so just be careful with what you feed, how many times you feed and how many at one single time you feed. Rats are said to be fattier then mice, but two mice of the same size would be fattier then one slightly larger rat - this is also in a thread somewhere, and is quite a good read.

If you have some electronic scales and some pictures, that may be useful to those of us that have an idea of what a fatty snake looks like and weighs in at XD My Rip was 88g and only just over 2ft long, which doesn't seem that bad, but I could see the white flesh between his scales a little, so have downgraded his food intake.

EMZ - WORCESTER, UK

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mikerichards
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 26/11/2010 :  17:13:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
weight and length are key, measure as best you can, and weigh the snake, then we can go from there.

Location : Worthing, West Sussex
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Sta~ple
qeeun speler

United Kingdom
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Posted - 26/11/2010 :  19:17:32  Show Profile  Click to see Sta~ple's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by tehbunneh

If you have some electronic scales and some pictures, that may be useful to those of us that have an idea of what a fatty snake looks like and weighs in at XD My Rip was 88g and only just over 2ft long, which doesn't seem that bad, but I could see the white flesh between his scales a little, so have downgraded his food intake.



I think the white flesh rule is generally used for adults. I have never seen or heard of a fat young snake!



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tehbunneh
Hatchling

United Kingdom
390 Posts

Posted - 26/11/2010 :  22:56:13  Show Profile  Visit tehbunneh's Homepage  Send tehbunneh an AOL message  Click to see tehbunneh's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Oh really? It may be because he is an anery, and I worry about things like weight in my pets that I think that it what it is X3 If I gently push the scales together, the whiteness does go away on his scales. He's not massively overweight, my boy, but he does seem a little on the chunky side. Might just be me worrying TOO much over him, rather then just letting him be.

EMZ - WORCESTER, UK

3.2.0 Corn Snakes
Conan (CB09 Carolina); Ripley (CB09 Ghost); Widget (CB09 Hypo Pewter); Dexter (CB10 Granite); Boa'tata (CB10 Bloodred)
0.1.0 Taiwanese Beauty
Taiki (CB11)
1.0.0 Mexican Black Kingsnake
Tanis (CB10)
0.0.1 Amazon Tree Boa
Winston (CB??)
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mikerichards
don't say the 'M' word!

United Kingdom
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Posted - 26/11/2010 :  23:02:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
88g at over 2ft isnt bad at all, i wouldnt worry too much.

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tehbunneh
Hatchling

United Kingdom
390 Posts

Posted - 26/11/2010 :  23:06:52  Show Profile  Visit tehbunneh's Homepage  Send tehbunneh an AOL message  Click to see tehbunneh's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Ahh, thank you very much! Gosh, I feel naughty hi-jacking poor Grouch's thread! I do hope he gets back to us soon on his issue so you guys can be so helpful with him ^^

EMZ - WORCESTER, UK

3.2.0 Corn Snakes
Conan (CB09 Carolina); Ripley (CB09 Ghost); Widget (CB09 Hypo Pewter); Dexter (CB10 Granite); Boa'tata (CB10 Bloodred)
0.1.0 Taiwanese Beauty
Taiki (CB11)
1.0.0 Mexican Black Kingsnake
Tanis (CB10)
0.0.1 Amazon Tree Boa
Winston (CB??)
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