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Oh How Original
Yearling
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 19/12/2010 : 17:50:19
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A girl on this site has just bought a snake.
She's handling it straight away without a settling in period.
And because some snake owner has told her that the snake isn't stressed and he's had "20 years experience" she seems to think the settling in period doesn't apply lol.
What are your guys/girls thoughts on the situation?
I don't mean to stick my nose in but the main priority has to be the snake. |
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 19/12/2010 : 18:16:01
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To be very honest I did also handle Nimbus before the 7 day settle period was over. We gave it just 4 days and even fed him on day 4 as he was due. He has been great since. No problems, not stressed, just one very happy snake.
Nimbus is 6 months old though and very used to being handled as the shop staff loved him. I kept a close eye on him and felt sure he was ok to start handeling earlier than suggested.
If he had been a younger hatchling, not so much used to being handled, then I would have waited the full 7 days and taken things much more slowly.
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Oh How Original
Yearling
United Kingdom
591 Posts |
Posted - 19/12/2010 : 18:18:52
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| To me it looks like a hatchling, but only seen a small msn DP picture. |
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1.0.0 Normal Royal - Ronald.
1.0.0 Carpet Python - Magic.
1.0.0 Amel Corn - Pendulum.
1.0.0 Anery Corn - Chilli.
0.1.0 Snow Corn - Wormsle.
0.1.0 California King x Mexican Black - Lucy.
0.1.0 Leopard Gecko - Bear. |
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Oh How Original
Yearling
United Kingdom
591 Posts |
Posted - 19/12/2010 : 18:26:58
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OK she's finally told me...
It's 12 weeks old. |
When on the Forums, always be nice, stick to the rules and help when you can.
1.0.0 Normal Royal - Ronald.
1.0.0 Carpet Python - Magic.
1.0.0 Amel Corn - Pendulum.
1.0.0 Anery Corn - Chilli.
0.1.0 Snow Corn - Wormsle.
0.1.0 California King x Mexican Black - Lucy.
0.1.0 Leopard Gecko - Bear. |
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Sta~ple
qeeun speler
United Kingdom
6129 Posts |
Posted - 19/12/2010 : 18:35:22
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I handled my yearling snake straight away no settling in period year ago, I didn't know any better. If I had know, I would have given him that time as now it is obvious why he rattled his tail at me when I didn't let him settle in.
I think it can depend on the snake, some are fine without it. It also depends on the species of snake I imagine, I bet some are more stressy than others and are recommend to have an even longer settling in period. They don't tend to show stress right away though, it can take a few days. All animals should really have a kind of settling in period, just because reptiles don't tend to show it very well doesn't mean they don't need it. Would she rather leave the snake for a few days knowing that it would make the snake feel better or keep touching him and increase a possibly of feeding problems, striking and tail rattling |
   
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mikeyd_26
Yearling
United Kingdom
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Posted - 19/12/2010 : 18:50:56
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| think the settling period is more of a guideline/advice rather than a golden rule. although i personaly have found it does help! :) |
   
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Oh How Original
Yearling
United Kingdom
591 Posts |
Posted - 19/12/2010 : 18:55:38
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Thanks guys, your opinions count :).
I thought I was right, but the fact the person said just because her friend has more experience then I must be wrong lol.
But you lot confirm it :). |
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1.0.0 Normal Royal - Ronald.
1.0.0 Carpet Python - Magic.
1.0.0 Amel Corn - Pendulum.
1.0.0 Anery Corn - Chilli.
0.1.0 Snow Corn - Wormsle.
0.1.0 California King x Mexican Black - Lucy.
0.1.0 Leopard Gecko - Bear. |
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Newbie
Yearling
950 Posts |
Posted - 19/12/2010 : 19:39:12
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I wish I'd resisted the temptation to handle Pliskin soon after his arrival but I didn't realize the importance of letting him settle in, felt racked with guilt for stressing him  he seems much happier now though, he's had 7 days of being left alone (bar essential water fills and peeps through to check on him) and he's so much better now, out of his hide more and quite chilled looking 
If I get another snake in future(an increasing possibility!) I'd definately leave them alone to settle  x |
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herriotfan
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
5853 Posts |
Posted - 19/12/2010 : 20:28:36
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Originally posted by Newbie
I wish I'd resisted the temptation to handle Pliskin soon after his arrival but I didn't realize the importance of letting him settle in, felt racked with guilt for stressing him he seems much happier now though, he's had 7 days of being left alone (bar essential water fills and peeps through to check on him) and he's so much better now, out of his hide more and quite chilled looking
If I get another snake in future(an increasing possibility!) I'd definately leave them alone to settle x
I think that answers your question very well.
(Also noted the bit about increasing possibility of another snake!!!)
To be honest it will depend a lot on the snake. Some will really benefit from a settling in period and others are fine no matter what!
I would always go on the side of caution with a new snake and give it a few days to see how it reacts with me.
I would suggest the person with 20 years experience is lucky to have had such a long time with no 'issues' at all. I had one hatchling who wouldn't eat and would have really freaked out at being handled without a long period of settling, over the suggested 7 days!
But in this world it's each to his own.
I do think it's wrong of somebody to put you down when you only had the snakes best interest at heart. But I may well be the one in the wrong for saying such a thing.
All you can do is gently give your opinion and hope the snake will be ok.
Don't forget they are quite hardy little creatures and can, if they unfortunately have to, take a fair amount of ill advised treatment!
Be reassured that you have done your best.
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Newbie
Yearling
950 Posts |
Posted - 19/12/2010 : 20:41:58
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I just can't help it herriotfan! They're such lovely creatures  x |
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herriotfan
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
5853 Posts |
Posted - 19/12/2010 : 21:01:12
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Originally posted by Newbie
I just can't help it herriotfan! They're such lovely creatures x
Too true....couldn't agree more and all that!!!! |
Husband....Very Understanding!!! (Phil)
Son & Daughter (Kevin & Carol)
Granddaughter (Eva)
3.4.0 Cornsnakes Amel (Sidney) Caramel Stripe (Sultan) Amber (Cleo) Carolina (Phoebe) Anery Motley Stripe (Penny) Snow (Lily) Caramel (Holmes)
1.2.0 Royal Pythons(Peeps, Pandora & Pepsi)
1.0.0 Hognose (Hudson)
2.1.0 Dogs (Dillon, Alfie, Ellie)
0.1.0 Senegal Parrot (Peanut)
1.1.0 Bearded Dragons (Bonnie & Clyde)
1.0.0 Crested Geckos (Echo)
0.2.1 Hermanns Tortoises (Ebbie, Rosie & Twiglet)
0.1.0 Guinea Pig (Dolly-Pipsqueak)
0.1.9 Tarantulas (Poppy, Gypsy, Bumble, Insey Winsey, Sonic, Cookie, Raven, Fudge, Titch & Sox)
??? Foster animals
Location: Near Saffron Walden, Essex
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eeji
The Morph Master
United Kingdom
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Posted - 19/12/2010 : 21:18:59
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i personally think 'the 7 days rule' is a load of **** and don't handle any new arrivals until I know they are eating well. This would be a minimum of 2 1/2 weeks - one week without food, a feed, then another week, then another feed, then a few days to digest properly. If after the 2 weeks the new arrival hasn't eaten twice then they get left alone until they have done in consecutive weeks.
As a side note, my snakes aren't 'handled' (sorry, I don't much care for that word!) very often at all, only for essential maintenance (cleaning etc) and the occasional photo shoot to keep any unnecessary stress to a bare minimum :) |
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