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manda88
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 16/01/2012 : 10:57:15
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To be honest the main reasons why I wouldn't keep any of my snakes together is because if one regurges or has an unhealthy poo or something there's no way to tell who it came from, so all of them would have to pay a visit to the vet to get checked out, it's effort to have to separate them all at feeding time and then keep them separate for a while afterwards to let the scent of mouse go away so they don't try and eat each other.
There's the risk of an incorrectly sexed snake being put in with multiple males/females as Yola has already experienced, and if someone doesn't have the facilities and funds to incubate and house 15+ eggs and feed up a very skinny female snake back to health then they've got a problem that they could have avoided.
To me there just seems to be more cons than pros of keeping together, it seems that the only 'good' thing about housing together is that they take up less space. I'm not saying Yola is wrong to keep hers together  at the end of the day it's up to the owner how they want to keep their snakes, but I have to admit that I do think keeping 5 adult males in a 4ft viv is pushing it. I'm in a one bedroom flat and every single one of my 38 snakes has it's own separate tub.
I hope nobody thinks I'm having a pop, it's just my 2 pence worth |
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mattocks123
Egg
United Kingdom
63 Posts |
Posted - 16/01/2012 : 11:30:02
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I see where you are coming from,
i was going to feed them speratly- if so how long do you think the scent takes to go away,
Plus does anyone know what age corns can actuallt mate, and what age do the males become mature to be able to mate (same question i guess)  |
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- Dizzie 1.0.0
- Nagini 0.1.0
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If not alot of videos will be adding more, as time goes on, onlt had them 3 weeks (Jan 2012)
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manda88
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1002 Posts |
Posted - 16/01/2012 : 11:59:30
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Some people just put them straight back in once they've eaten to be fair, others keep them separate for anywhere between 10 minutes to an hour, either way I would watch them for a few minutes once they're back in with each other just to make sure one doesn't think the other smells delicious enough to take a chunk out of! 
Males mature much quicker than females, a breeder I know had an 80g male at about a year old mate with a female just while he was cleaning his tub out, he turned round for a few minutes and then looked back and they had locked! Can't remember if the eggs were fertile or not in the end though. I would be wary of keeping a male and female together regardless of age if I'm honest, I've read a lot of stories and seen a lot of pictures of hatchlings eating each other, but if you choose to do so then I would recommend separating them at about 9 months old/when the male reaches about 50-60g just to be on the safe side.
Females are best to be bred once they have reached over 300g in weight (some people do breed them at 250g+ as well), and 3ft long so you have a nice long slender snake, rather than a short overweight one at 300g, some people say for them to be 3 years old as well but I'm going to be breeding a CB10 this year and she's as healthy as a horse |
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yola
Hatchling
United Kingdom
171 Posts |
Posted - 16/01/2012 : 12:19:12
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I have a rota set up where I seprate them into 5 tubs, they all eat strait away and are then put back into the viv and then the next one or couple taken out and put into the septate tubs to feed, they allways then go and curl up in the heated bit in the hide. Iv never personly experienced them trying to eat each other, but i am aware of it, NONE of my snakes are at risk, my Viv is in my lounge and any type of movement or anything (even pooing i can see strait away as there tails go up), so i know who's done what poo and its cleaned up strait away. The snakes are curled up the majority of the time in there hides and not all of them come out of hiding at once, they have branches to climb etc too, so i feel that the size Viv there in is fine, if i thought for a minute it was to crouded, or there health or happiness was suffering i wouldnt house them this way.
My babies/hatchies are kept seprate as its far easier to record there feeding, shedding and pooing by there numberd rubs and show potential new owners the records. If they choose a certain numberd snake I can show them the records of that babies snake instantly.
Babies i keep on are transferd into larger rubs at 5-6 months of age with 4 at the most in them, they are seprated out, fed and monitored whilst feeding as are all my snakes.
When the babies iv kept on or new babies iv brought in hit the age of 2 there seprated instantly as males can breed at 2yrs of age.
I have unfortunatly experienced this with a small male last year that I honestly didn't think was old enough to breed, he breed with my 3yr old girl who layed 2 eggs and then unfortunately double clutched and layed 7 dud eggs, she wasn't old enough to breed and certanly couldnt cope with the double clutching so there for we lost her a month and a half later, I feel had she not double clutched she would still be here but you cant fortell what girls will double clutch or not.
My housing arrangements work for me and my snakes, I monitor them very carefully and record everything.
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With 27 beautiful corns I definitely have snakeitus :-) |
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mattocks123
Egg
United Kingdom
63 Posts |
Posted - 16/01/2012 : 13:02:17
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| So do you think i am ok house 2 oppsite sex corns in the same 2ft viv ?? |
Owner Of 2 Corns
- Dizzie 1.0.0
- Nagini 0.1.0
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MY YOUTUBE ACCOUNT
Check out for info on my corns, check them out.
If not alot of videos will be adding more, as time goes on, onlt had them 3 weeks (Jan 2012)
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yola
Hatchling
United Kingdom
171 Posts |
Posted - 16/01/2012 : 17:18:35
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Mattocks123 I read you thread today and gather youv been having probs with one of your snakes regurgitating plus other probs from what I gather, I dont know the full story but I would imagine you've been given some very good advise, I would listen to that advise and keep your snakes seprate, some snakes cant cope with being in with another and refuse feeds or if they do feed they regurge it again, all this is very stressfull on a snake so to minimse any stress atall I would keep your seprate. Plus if there diffrent sexes you mite aswell put them in diffrent vivs to save the stress on the one thats not good at the mo, and monitor them both VERY carefully
I had a snake last year that stoped eating and for that reason alone he was seprated into a spare Viv imadiatly as I knew this was not like him atall, he wouldnt keep anything down atall, bare in mind he was a big snake and used to eat small rats with ease, he went down to a pinky and couldnt keep that down, he eventually passed away, in all honesty I think he was older than what the people said he was when he was sold to me because he was a very healthy snake and never missed a feed, none of my other snakes got ill either.
Take the good advise that has obviously been given to you. |
With 27 beautiful corns I definitely have snakeitus :-) |
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mattocks123
Egg
United Kingdom
63 Posts |
Posted - 16/01/2012 : 17:47:40
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Ok thanks :).
-one other thing was that the one that regurged was on its own and 5 days later i bought the female one :) |
Owner Of 2 Corns
- Dizzie 1.0.0
- Nagini 0.1.0
http://www.youtube.com/user/ReptileJungleUK?feature=mhee
MY YOUTUBE ACCOUNT
Check out for info on my corns, check them out.
If not alot of videos will be adding more, as time goes on, onlt had them 3 weeks (Jan 2012)
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mattocks123
Egg
United Kingdom
63 Posts |
Posted - 16/01/2012 : 17:48:56
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| I believed he regurged becuse i handled him a day after feeding. (I know that was a bad idea) |
Owner Of 2 Corns
- Dizzie 1.0.0
- Nagini 0.1.0
http://www.youtube.com/user/ReptileJungleUK?feature=mhee
MY YOUTUBE ACCOUNT
Check out for info on my corns, check them out.
If not alot of videos will be adding more, as time goes on, onlt had them 3 weeks (Jan 2012)
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yola
Hatchling
United Kingdom
171 Posts |
Posted - 16/01/2012 : 19:17:02
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Honestly id keep them seprate as there going to have to be seprated anyway and it will minimize the stress of being seprated on them both at a later date, it will also prevent earyly matings that can kill the female as there bodys arnt mature enough to cope with it all, wich you REALLY dont want im sure.
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With 27 beautiful corns I definitely have snakeitus :-) |
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mattocks123
Egg
United Kingdom
63 Posts |
Posted - 16/01/2012 : 19:34:45
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Some time during the week i will place the female in a RUB.
Another thing as well when i get some money (next month) shall i but a 4ft viv and divide it ??? |
Owner Of 2 Corns
- Dizzie 1.0.0
- Nagini 0.1.0
http://www.youtube.com/user/ReptileJungleUK?feature=mhee
MY YOUTUBE ACCOUNT
Check out for info on my corns, check them out.
If not alot of videos will be adding more, as time goes on, onlt had them 3 weeks (Jan 2012)
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mattocks123
Egg
United Kingdom
63 Posts |
Posted - 16/01/2012 : 19:46:18
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| Plus have you houses 2 baby corns of the opposite sex before ??? |
Owner Of 2 Corns
- Dizzie 1.0.0
- Nagini 0.1.0
http://www.youtube.com/user/ReptileJungleUK?feature=mhee
MY YOUTUBE ACCOUNT
Check out for info on my corns, check them out.
If not alot of videos will be adding more, as time goes on, onlt had them 3 weeks (Jan 2012)
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