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John Alderson
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
9 Posts

Posted - 24/04/2012 :  19:38:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi all. Am a proud new owner of a 8 month old Carolina Corn Snake. First snake I have owned but have kept spiders for over 20 years and also have 3 Chinese Tree Frogs. I have the tank on a matt with stat at 30 C and humidity is 50%. Have aspen substrate and loads of hiding spots and fake foliage. My question is about lighting. I realise snakes do not need lighting but I would like some lighting to display the beautiful colours. The lighting would only be on for a couple of hours a night and I just need advice on what to buy. I was thinking LED as it doesn't generate much heat. Any advice would be welcome. Cheers.

Carolina Corn Snake
Chinese Tree Frogs

Georgina
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
2382 Posts

Posted - 24/04/2012 :  19:39:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
the stat temp will be different to the actual temp, do you have a digital thermometer?

leds are the way forward, if you use red or blue they cannot see it and will be more active. x

1.0 western hognose (hero)
1.0 phantom reverse pin dal brindle crested gecko (goyle)
0.2 red dal red harly (sprite) 99% full pin Harley crested gecko (TuLong)
0.0.3 miomantis paykullii
0.0.3 Bombina orientalis (oriental fire bellied toad)
0.3 fancy mice (snap, crackle and pop)
1.0 yorkshire terrier (jasper)
2.1 cats (echo, shadow and pokey)
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lotabob
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
4334 Posts

Posted - 24/04/2012 :  20:00:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
As Georgina points out you set the temperature using a thermometer and not what it says on the thermostat as the printed numbers aren't a million miles out but they aren't accurate enough to rely on.

I use Ikea LED's they are brilliant and you can change the colour as you see fit.
http://www.ikea.com/gb/en/catalog/products/00202324/
Snakes can see colours even red and blue its just less intrusive than white light which is what they recognise as daylight.

I only use mine for a few hours a day if I want to view them but mainly its off and they seem to have accepted them as non threatening.

Anery Corn snake SPOT. Royal Python, DUKE. Hogg Island Boa, SANKE. Albino House Snake, HAL.
Harlequin Crested Gecko HARLEY
Albino Horned Frog WAKA
Chilean Rose Tarantula TRIXIE. Brazilian Salmon Pink Bird-eating Tarantula SAM. Orange Baboon Tarantula BORIS.
Giant Asian Forest Scorpion, SALLY.
Giant African Land Snails, SHELDON & MICHELLE.
Budwing Mantis, MAIA
Dubia Roach Colony. Silkworm Colony. Mealworm Colony. Waxworm Colony. Fruit Beetle Colony.

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Donnie
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
3215 Posts

Posted - 24/04/2012 :  20:07:46  Show Profile  Click to see Donnie's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Ikea LED's are the way to go, there are quite a few of us on here who use them. Bit of a warning to you corns are very addictive so don't be at all surprised if soon you add another to your collection

1.1 Corns (Anery Stripe, Amel) 1.0 Rootbeer 0.2 Jungle Carpet Python 1.0 Zebra Jungle Carpet Python 1.0 50% Diamond Zebra Carpet Python
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a2c7
Hatchling

United Kingdom
320 Posts

Posted - 24/04/2012 :  20:14:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here to support the current IKEA range of LEDs. Me and my OH have them in our snake's vivs and they work brilliantly for finding poop, giving snake a bit more light or pretty colours. They're called Dioders and we got the multicoloured versions which also do white.

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John Alderson
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
9 Posts

Posted - 24/04/2012 :  23:08:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi, thanks for your swift replies. My Corn has a thermometer with 2 sensors in his vivarium. The hot end of the tank registers 30.4C and cool end 18C. The sensor in the warm end is under the aspen pointed to the edge of the heat mat. The mat is under the glass and the sensor is on top of the glass in the vivarium.
I will check out the Ikea LEDs as they seem to be the way forward. I only intend using the lights after work for 2 hours maximum.
My Corn Snake is a standard Carolina but has stunning colours and I know i will end up buying more in the future with different colours. They are beautiful animals.

Carolina Corn Snake
Chinese Tree Frogs
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Georgina
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
2382 Posts

Posted - 24/04/2012 :  23:09:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
you need to put the temp probe in the center of the mat and turn your temp down a degree or too 30 is the max x

1.0 western hognose (hero)
1.0 phantom reverse pin dal brindle crested gecko (goyle)
0.2 red dal red harly (sprite) 99% full pin Harley crested gecko (TuLong)
0.0.3 miomantis paykullii
0.0.3 Bombina orientalis (oriental fire bellied toad)
0.3 fancy mice (snap, crackle and pop)
1.0 yorkshire terrier (jasper)
2.1 cats (echo, shadow and pokey)
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Donnie
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
3215 Posts

Posted - 24/04/2012 :  23:11:34  Show Profile  Click to see Donnie's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
John, try and get your hot end thermometer sensor more in the middle of the mat and tweak your temp down a deg or two, 30 deg should be the max :)

1.1 Corns (Anery Stripe, Amel) 1.0 Rootbeer 0.2 Jungle Carpet Python 1.0 Zebra Jungle Carpet Python 1.0 50% Diamond Zebra Carpet Python
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Donnie
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
3215 Posts

Posted - 24/04/2012 :  23:13:20  Show Profile  Click to see Donnie's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Georgina

you need to put the temp probe in the center of the mat and turn your temp down a degree or too 30 is the max x



Well said
I need some typing lessons

1.1 Corns (Anery Stripe, Amel) 1.0 Rootbeer 0.2 Jungle Carpet Python 1.0 Zebra Jungle Carpet Python 1.0 50% Diamond Zebra Carpet Python
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John Alderson
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
9 Posts

Posted - 24/04/2012 :  23:23:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Okey dokey. Will do that. Is the cool end ok or too cool?

Carolina Corn Snake
Chinese Tree Frogs
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Georgina
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
2382 Posts

Posted - 24/04/2012 :  23:26:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
dont worry about the cool end x

1.0 western hognose (hero)
1.0 phantom reverse pin dal brindle crested gecko (goyle)
0.2 red dal red harly (sprite) 99% full pin Harley crested gecko (TuLong)
0.0.3 miomantis paykullii
0.0.3 Bombina orientalis (oriental fire bellied toad)
0.3 fancy mice (snap, crackle and pop)
1.0 yorkshire terrier (jasper)
2.1 cats (echo, shadow and pokey)
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John Alderson
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
9 Posts

Posted - 24/04/2012 :  23:32:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
OK, I guess they move into the heat when needed?
Should I handle him? Some people say yes, some say no. What is the correct answer? Some people handle spiders but I always worked on the principle that all spiders feel threatened When handled. Do snakes get used to handling and do they enjoy it?

Carolina Corn Snake
Chinese Tree Frogs
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a33272
our battery charger

United Kingdom
3063 Posts

Posted - 25/04/2012 :  00:23:21  Show Profile  Visit a33272's Homepage  Send a33272 an AOL message  Click to see a33272's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Yeah u can handle but let ya snake settle in for a week then offer a feed an get feeding established first then start to handle, will be a it Kitty to start but will settle with time.



0.1.0 creamsicle corn-Marmalade
1.0.0 jungle carpet python-Bumble
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John Alderson
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
9 Posts

Posted - 25/04/2012 :  00:28:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Cool, will do. Great advice on here.

Carolina Corn Snake
Chinese Tree Frogs
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Lozzy
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
1556 Posts

Posted - 25/04/2012 :  00:28:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi and welcome :) Yes they thermo-regulate themselves so if they need heat they will move :) Oooooh yes you can def handle snakes, corn snakes in particular are very docile so easily handled tho of course if young will be a little quicker than an adult, it very much depends on the snake as to how much you handle them tho for example some snakes like 5 - 10 minutes every couple of days where as my yearling comes out every day (bar the two days after feeding) for anything from 15 minutes to half hr nd has been know to snuggle up under my clothes and be there for up to an hr, just keep an eye on the snakes body temperature when their out too as i let mine roam free ( :) )she is usually under clothes getting body heat directly from me. Hope i've helped and look forward to seeing pictures of your little one. :D



0.1 CB10 Snow Cornsnake - Galaxy ~(Currently MIA)
1.0 CB11 Ultramel Anery Consnake -Orion
0.1 CB11 Lavender Cornsnake - Star
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Lozzy
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
1556 Posts

Posted - 25/04/2012 :  00:29:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
TOO SLOOOW!! LOL



0.1 CB10 Snow Cornsnake - Galaxy ~(Currently MIA)
1.0 CB11 Ultramel Anery Consnake -Orion
0.1 CB11 Lavender Cornsnake - Star
0.1 Leopard Gecko-Simo
1.1 Jack Russell-T.J and Harley (Minature)
1.1 Cats-Rascal and Dizzee
1.0 TB Horse-Mickey
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a33272
our battery charger

United Kingdom
3063 Posts

Posted - 25/04/2012 :  00:37:50  Show Profile  Visit a33272's Homepage  Send a33272 an AOL message  Click to see a33272's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
:-P



0.1.0 creamsicle corn-Marmalade
1.0.0 jungle carpet python-Bumble
1.0.0 corn Casper

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