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Red123
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
2030 Posts

Posted - 21/08/2012 :  19:40:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Does the guide feeding a mouse thats 1 1/2 times the fattest part of the snake apply to western hognose? Stevie was on pinkies whe we first got her which were way to small. We doubled on pinkies then moved her to fuzzies. Since eating fuzzies she has gone from 17g to 41g and fuzzies leave no visible bump. It she was a corn I wouldn't hesitate to move her small mice but she is just so short compared to a corn that it has made me wary.
Any advice gratefully received

Corn Snake
, 1.0.0 Amel (Stan),

Royal Pythons
1.0.0 Normal (Nigel)

1.0.0 Albino (Tony)
Boa Constrictor Imperator
0.1.0 (Agatha)
Western Hognose
0.1.0 Normal (Stevie)

0.0.1 Schneider Skink (George)
1.0.0 Extreme Blonde Harlequin Crested Gecko (Bert)
4 GALS.

Tarantulas
Red Rump (B. Vagans) Jo.
Chaco Golden Knee (G. pulchripes) Charlie, Greenbottle Blue (C. cyaneopubescens) Gus, Honduran Curly Hair ( B. albopilosum) Titch, Mexican Fire Leg (B. boehmei), Salmon Pink Bird Eater(L. parahybana), Fort Hall Baboon (P. Lugardi) Blanche, Stout Leg Baboon (E. Pachypus) Graham, Chilean Rose (G. Rosea) Glen.



Border collie x (BoB), 2 Cats (Lucky & Dip), 17 Goldfish, and The Dubia Family

Jenn
Hatchling

Canada
204 Posts

Posted - 21/08/2012 :  20:50:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I believe it does apply, I know even with my moms ball python, the rule of thumb is 1 1/2 the biggest width. I dont thhink length plays a role, I am sure someone will be along soon!


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Ell
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
1640 Posts

Posted - 21/08/2012 :  21:06:29  Show Profile  Click to see Ell's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Again, I think the same applies :)



1.0.0 Normal corn snake - Dusk
0.1.0 Strawberry Snow Stripe corn snake - Dawn
0.1.0 Harlequin Crested Gecko - Stickles
1.0.0 Sable Syrian Hamster - CoCo
0.1.0 Hognose snake - Truffles
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Georgina
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
2382 Posts

Posted - 22/08/2012 :  08:26:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I spoke to a few people about this and the verdict was a big as the thickest part, if not just a teeny big bigger and they are big bodied snakes. Heros 42g now and he's moved to double fluff feeds. Xx

1.0 western hognose (hero)
1.0 phantom reverse pin dal brindle crested gecko (goyle)
0.2 red dal red harly (sprite) 99% full pin Harley crested gecko (TuLong)
0.0.3 miomantis paykullii
0.0.3 Bombina orientalis (oriental fire bellied toad)
0.3 fancy mice (snap, crackle and pop)
1.0 yorkshire terrier (jasper)
2.1 cats (echo, shadow and pokey)
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Red123
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
2030 Posts

Posted - 04/09/2012 :  18:36:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well we started Stevie on double fuzzies and she is still feeding really well. There is still no obvious bump after she has eaten both fuzzies so she will be moving to small mice in the next couple of weeks. Still gaing weight nicely and now weighs 55g the little porker lol.

Corn Snake
, 1.0.0 Amel (Stan),

Royal Pythons
1.0.0 Normal (Nigel)

1.0.0 Albino (Tony)
Boa Constrictor Imperator
0.1.0 (Agatha)
Western Hognose
0.1.0 Normal (Stevie)

0.0.1 Schneider Skink (George)
1.0.0 Extreme Blonde Harlequin Crested Gecko (Bert)
4 GALS.

Tarantulas
Red Rump (B. Vagans) Jo.
Chaco Golden Knee (G. pulchripes) Charlie, Greenbottle Blue (C. cyaneopubescens) Gus, Honduran Curly Hair ( B. albopilosum) Titch, Mexican Fire Leg (B. boehmei), Salmon Pink Bird Eater(L. parahybana), Fort Hall Baboon (P. Lugardi) Blanche, Stout Leg Baboon (E. Pachypus) Graham, Chilean Rose (G. Rosea) Glen.



Border collie x (BoB), 2 Cats (Lucky & Dip), 17 Goldfish, and The Dubia Family
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Ell
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
1640 Posts

Posted - 04/09/2012 :  21:46:46  Show Profile  Click to see Ell's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
PICCIES???!
:>



1.0.0 Normal corn snake - Dusk
0.1.0 Strawberry Snow Stripe corn snake - Dawn
0.1.0 Harlequin Crested Gecko - Stickles
1.0.0 Sable Syrian Hamster - CoCo
0.1.0 Hognose snake - Truffles
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Georgina
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
2382 Posts

Posted - 05/09/2012 :  18:32:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yeah, there still a teeny bump in hero, he's gone into blue again so he won't feed for two weeks :(

1.0 western hognose (hero)
1.0 phantom reverse pin dal brindle crested gecko (goyle)
0.2 red dal red harly (sprite) 99% full pin Harley crested gecko (TuLong)
0.0.3 miomantis paykullii
0.0.3 Bombina orientalis (oriental fire bellied toad)
0.3 fancy mice (snap, crackle and pop)
1.0 yorkshire terrier (jasper)
2.1 cats (echo, shadow and pokey)
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Red123
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
2030 Posts

Posted - 05/09/2012 :  20:14:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
How often does Hero shed? Stevie shed just over 3 weeks ago and is blue again. We were told that they do shed as aften as other snakes.

Ell - A quick pic for you.


I will have to get some full body pics of her once she has shed again.

Corn Snake
, 1.0.0 Amel (Stan),

Royal Pythons
1.0.0 Normal (Nigel)

1.0.0 Albino (Tony)
Boa Constrictor Imperator
0.1.0 (Agatha)
Western Hognose
0.1.0 Normal (Stevie)

0.0.1 Schneider Skink (George)
1.0.0 Extreme Blonde Harlequin Crested Gecko (Bert)
4 GALS.

Tarantulas
Red Rump (B. Vagans) Jo.
Chaco Golden Knee (G. pulchripes) Charlie, Greenbottle Blue (C. cyaneopubescens) Gus, Honduran Curly Hair ( B. albopilosum) Titch, Mexican Fire Leg (B. boehmei), Salmon Pink Bird Eater(L. parahybana), Fort Hall Baboon (P. Lugardi) Blanche, Stout Leg Baboon (E. Pachypus) Graham, Chilean Rose (G. Rosea) Glen.



Border collie x (BoB), 2 Cats (Lucky & Dip), 17 Goldfish, and The Dubia Family

Edited by - Red123 on 05/09/2012 20:15:09
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Ell
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
1640 Posts

Posted - 06/09/2012 :  10:37:30  Show Profile  Click to see Ell's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Awwww! Such a cutie, adorable little snout :)
Yes...you will need to get more pictures ;)



1.0.0 Normal corn snake - Dusk
0.1.0 Strawberry Snow Stripe corn snake - Dawn
0.1.0 Harlequin Crested Gecko - Stickles
1.0.0 Sable Syrian Hamster - CoCo
0.1.0 Hognose snake - Truffles
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scottishbluebird
it is all my fault

United Kingdom
8403 Posts

Posted - 06/09/2012 :  17:36:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yep deff more pics, even though they really depress me seeing them, i cant stop looking....and wanting!


0.1.0 Corn - Kellogs
1.0.0 Hognose - Storm
0.1.0 Staffy - Lyla
1.0.0 Spaffy(staffy x springer)-Spyro
1.0.0 Ferret - Peanut R.I.P
0.1.0 Crestie - Fudge. Wish List - Pygmy hedgehog. Tropiocolotes
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Red123
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
2030 Posts

Posted - 06/09/2012 :  18:17:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by scottishbluebird

Yep deff more pics, even though they really depress me seeing them, i cant stop looking....and wanting!



You definatley NEED to get one. They are amazing little snakes. Such a great character. I don't know if all hoggies are that active but Stevie is seen out and about alot during the day. A right nosey madam she is. Think I may end up getting one of my own. Stevie really belongs to my 14 year old son

Corn Snake
, 1.0.0 Amel (Stan),

Royal Pythons
1.0.0 Normal (Nigel)

1.0.0 Albino (Tony)
Boa Constrictor Imperator
0.1.0 (Agatha)
Western Hognose
0.1.0 Normal (Stevie)

0.0.1 Schneider Skink (George)
1.0.0 Extreme Blonde Harlequin Crested Gecko (Bert)
4 GALS.

Tarantulas
Red Rump (B. Vagans) Jo.
Chaco Golden Knee (G. pulchripes) Charlie, Greenbottle Blue (C. cyaneopubescens) Gus, Honduran Curly Hair ( B. albopilosum) Titch, Mexican Fire Leg (B. boehmei), Salmon Pink Bird Eater(L. parahybana), Fort Hall Baboon (P. Lugardi) Blanche, Stout Leg Baboon (E. Pachypus) Graham, Chilean Rose (G. Rosea) Glen.



Border collie x (BoB), 2 Cats (Lucky & Dip), 17 Goldfish, and The Dubia Family

Edited by - Red123 on 06/09/2012 18:54:36
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Georgina
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
2382 Posts

Posted - 06/09/2012 :  18:34:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I was told that they shed two to three times a year, but is is here's 3rd shed with me in the last 5 months, so either I'm feeding him too much or the info is slightly out x

1.0 western hognose (hero)
1.0 phantom reverse pin dal brindle crested gecko (goyle)
0.2 red dal red harly (sprite) 99% full pin Harley crested gecko (TuLong)
0.0.3 miomantis paykullii
0.0.3 Bombina orientalis (oriental fire bellied toad)
0.3 fancy mice (snap, crackle and pop)
1.0 yorkshire terrier (jasper)
2.1 cats (echo, shadow and pokey)
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Red123
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
2030 Posts

Posted - 06/09/2012 :  18:56:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Georgina

I was told that they shed two to three times a year, but is is here's 3rd shed with me in the last 5 months, so either I'm feeding him too much or the info is slightly out x



Thats what we were told and have read. When we got Stevie she had shed stuck on her nose and it came off easily so guessing she had recently shed beofre we got her. This is her second shed with us so thats three shed in 3-4 months. Very strange.

Corn Snake
, 1.0.0 Amel (Stan),

Royal Pythons
1.0.0 Normal (Nigel)

1.0.0 Albino (Tony)
Boa Constrictor Imperator
0.1.0 (Agatha)
Western Hognose
0.1.0 Normal (Stevie)

0.0.1 Schneider Skink (George)
1.0.0 Extreme Blonde Harlequin Crested Gecko (Bert)
4 GALS.

Tarantulas
Red Rump (B. Vagans) Jo.
Chaco Golden Knee (G. pulchripes) Charlie, Greenbottle Blue (C. cyaneopubescens) Gus, Honduran Curly Hair ( B. albopilosum) Titch, Mexican Fire Leg (B. boehmei), Salmon Pink Bird Eater(L. parahybana), Fort Hall Baboon (P. Lugardi) Blanche, Stout Leg Baboon (E. Pachypus) Graham, Chilean Rose (G. Rosea) Glen.



Border collie x (BoB), 2 Cats (Lucky & Dip), 17 Goldfish, and The Dubia Family
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Georgina
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
2382 Posts

Posted - 06/09/2012 :  19:23:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Tis very odd, hero had a retained tail shed on him when I got him which was more than one shed old :( x

1.0 western hognose (hero)
1.0 phantom reverse pin dal brindle crested gecko (goyle)
0.2 red dal red harly (sprite) 99% full pin Harley crested gecko (TuLong)
0.0.3 miomantis paykullii
0.0.3 Bombina orientalis (oriental fire bellied toad)
0.3 fancy mice (snap, crackle and pop)
1.0 yorkshire terrier (jasper)
2.1 cats (echo, shadow and pokey)
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Red123
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
2030 Posts

Posted - 06/09/2012 :  20:06:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have just spoken to someone and they say that they shed every month or so as a hatchling then slowly reduce their shedding just as any other snake.

Corn Snake
, 1.0.0 Amel (Stan),

Royal Pythons
1.0.0 Normal (Nigel)

1.0.0 Albino (Tony)
Boa Constrictor Imperator
0.1.0 (Agatha)
Western Hognose
0.1.0 Normal (Stevie)

0.0.1 Schneider Skink (George)
1.0.0 Extreme Blonde Harlequin Crested Gecko (Bert)
4 GALS.

Tarantulas
Red Rump (B. Vagans) Jo.
Chaco Golden Knee (G. pulchripes) Charlie, Greenbottle Blue (C. cyaneopubescens) Gus, Honduran Curly Hair ( B. albopilosum) Titch, Mexican Fire Leg (B. boehmei), Salmon Pink Bird Eater(L. parahybana), Fort Hall Baboon (P. Lugardi) Blanche, Stout Leg Baboon (E. Pachypus) Graham, Chilean Rose (G. Rosea) Glen.



Border collie x (BoB), 2 Cats (Lucky & Dip), 17 Goldfish, and The Dubia Family
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Ell
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
1640 Posts

Posted - 07/09/2012 :  08:52:32  Show Profile  Click to see Ell's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Can't wait for Truffles to shed :D



1.0.0 Normal corn snake - Dusk
0.1.0 Strawberry Snow Stripe corn snake - Dawn
0.1.0 Harlequin Crested Gecko - Stickles
1.0.0 Sable Syrian Hamster - CoCo
0.1.0 Hognose snake - Truffles
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Mnementh
Yearling

United Kingdom
537 Posts

Posted - 10/09/2012 :  16:20:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It takes my hoggies around 3 - 4 months for each shed , sometimes seems longer , but they do look bigger before the shed , especially my females , they are getting a fair size now .

Also the general rule for feeding is smaller more often , mine are fed every 5 days atm . Except for my fasting male who has'nt eaten for 2 months or so .

One last jump , that's all we have to take Holth .
Wearily the old queen gathered heself to spring ;
Moreta gratefully began her litany .
Black , blacker , blackest -
They went between .

Edited by - Mnementh on 10/09/2012 16:23:26
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