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jj3769
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
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Posted - 09/08/2013 :  11:43:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi

My daughter has a snake that we bought as a Sunglow Corn. He's about 3 we think and is gorgeous, but I just wondered what everyone's opinions are. Is he a Sunglow?

Having become addicted, I now have one myself. She's about a year and a half and I think is a standard corn. Again, can anyone tell me?

All thoughts gratefully received

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lupi lou
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
3670 Posts

Posted - 09/08/2013 :  11:52:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Lovely snakes, the first one is a normal aka Carolina and not 100% on the morph of the second one but is a lovely color


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oakleyman18
Yearling

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Posted - 09/08/2013 :  12:31:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Looking at the pictures, I'd say yes your corn is a normal -also called wild type/carolina as Lou says :)

On the "sunglow front" however, this is a selectively bred morph, and identification is always down to personal taste and opinion rather than genetics, so becomes a little trickier. In fact there is another current thread on sunglows in the morphs section. However personally I would call this an Amel. He's also a fairly chunky boy..! Have you just bought him? Either way, his feeding needs to be fairly heavily reduced to perhaps one large mouse every 3 weeks.



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ScaryVonHayleystine
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
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Posted - 09/08/2013 :  12:57:44  Show Profile  Visit ScaryVonHayleystine's Homepage  Click to see ScaryVonHayleystine's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I say yes your 'normal' is a wild type :)
The sunglow to me however is not. To me i see sunglows are dark oranges and reds with little to no white. Your snake looks light oranges and white so i see it as an amel. Similar to my creamsicles colours but she is a hybrid :)

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scottishbluebird
it is all my fault

United Kingdom
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Posted - 09/08/2013 :  17:38:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
They are lovely


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jj3769
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
10 Posts

Posted - 09/08/2013 :  18:01:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for the replies.

I've never been sure about the Sunglow. He was certainly sold to us as that but he was our first snake, so we didn't know a thing about the different morphs, just though he was really attractive and good natured.

oakleyman18 No, we've had him a little over two years now. Yes he is pretty chunky. Haven't measured him but his last shed about five weeks ago measured 5 1/2 foot. He is on two large mice and eats some weeks and doesn't others. I will take on board what you've said though. I was always told the size of his food should be about the same as his widest part. I did try him on small rats for a couple of weeks, which would seem to be about the right size based on that, but I moved him back down to two large mice a week (when he takes them). Maybe it will just take time to come back down a bit again. With the other one, the normal, she lets you know when she's hungry, but he doesn't. He's totally laid back about everything, including food lol.

ScaryVonHayleystine Not sure if the photos are showing lighter than he is but he is more like pale orange/yellow and orange. He does have white but only on the under side.

Scottishbluebird Thank you.

Thanks for all the help guys

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jj3769
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
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Posted - 10/08/2013 :  08:52:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Another question if you dont mind me asking.

The Sunglow/Amel is totally laid back and always has been. He's also been well handled by my daughter. The other one, the normal, has only been with us since april. I think she's probably about two just now. We rehomed her and she seemed fine we handled her at the person's house. But she's since proven to be quite nervous, very flighty. She's very curious and loves climbing in her viv. But moves to hide often when she sees someone coming. I do handle her and she's never tried to bite. But doesn't like to be held long. Any suggestions or just keep persevering?

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smart bunny
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
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Posted - 10/08/2013 :  09:45:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Agree with the others - a normal and an amel - and the amel is rather overweight. Recommended diet for an adult corn is 1 large mouse every 10-14 days, so 2 large at a time is far too much, especially offered weekly. He really needs to go on a diet now to try to lose a bit, so would agree with Oakleyman a large every 3 weeks would probably be a good start, accompanied by lots of handling and climbing up stairs etc for exercise :)

As for the handling - all snakes are different, and it's not unusual for some corns to hide away, especially if she wasn't handled much before you got her. I'd just persevere with her, little and often, gradually increasing the length of time she is out if you can. Also, try to put her back before she starts showing signs of stress if you can, so that it was noting but positive for her :)

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jj3769
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
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Posted - 10/08/2013 :  12:18:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by smart bunny

Agree with the others - a normal and an amel - and the amel is rather overweight. Recommended diet for an adult corn is 1 large mouse every 10-14 days, so 2 large at a time is far too much, especially offered weekly. He really needs to go on a diet now to try to lose a bit, so would agree with Oakleyman a large every 3 weeks would probably be a good start, accompanied by lots of handling and climbing up stairs etc for exercise :)

As for the handling - all snakes are different, and it's not unusual for some corns to hide away, especially if she wasn't handled much before you got her. I'd just persevere with her, little and often, gradually increasing the length of time she is out if you can. Also, try to put her back before she starts showing signs of stress if you can, so that it was noting but positive for her :)



Thanks for your comments. I'll try to bring his weight down and keep working with her

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Moppet
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
3315 Posts

Posted - 10/08/2013 :  15:57:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I agree, a normal and an Amel Both very pretty snakes.

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jj3769
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
10 Posts

Posted - 11/08/2013 :  18:34:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Moppet

I agree, a normal and an Amel Both very pretty snakes.



Thank you

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