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                 divadexie 
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                       Posted - 15/08/2013 :  22:08:38
                        
                        
                      
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                       Hi is my new boy Sid a caramel/caramel motley?  There are sooo many morphs its a bit confusing he is my first corn.
 
  
 
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                 mjpeters 
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                       Posted - 15/08/2013 :  22:50:00
                        
                        
                        
                        
                      
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                       Hmm,doesn't look Motley to me-whats his tummy look like? Very lovely little snakey chap though   | 
                     
                    
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                 divadexie 
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                       Posted - 15/08/2013 :  22:55:15
                        
                        
                      
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                       Sorry its a bad pic and scuse my eczema lol
 
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                 Moppet 
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                       Posted - 15/08/2013 :  22:57:42
                        
                        
                      
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                       As above, what does his belly look like? If there are checkers then he's not a motley.
  I think Caramels and Normals look very similar as hatchlings and to be honest I find it very hard to tell the difference when they're young.  | 
                     
                    
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                 ScaryVonHayleystine 
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                       Posted - 15/08/2013 :  23:05:38
                        
                        
                        
                        
                      
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                       if there are split checkers is t not part masque gene?
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                 Coal 
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                       Posted - 16/08/2013 :  09:19:29
                        
                        
                      
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                       If I had to guess I would say caramel, but as Moppet said, it's hard to tell when they're babbas; he could be normal
  As for pattern, I would say not motley because he does have checkers on his belly, though those checkers don't really look entirely normal to me either - masque is possible? | 
                     
                    
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                 mjpeters 
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                       Posted - 16/08/2013 :  22:32:04
                        
                        
                        
                        
                      
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                      |  Het Motley can also give weirdy tummy? | 
                     
                    
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                 smart bunny 
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                       Posted - 17/08/2013 :  15:12:20
                        
                        
                      
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                      |  Looks caramel if the colours are accurate in the first pic as the spots look yellow rather than orange - definitely not motley though with those belly chequers. As above though, the chequers are split so is masque :) | 
                     
                    
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                 eeji 
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                       Posted - 19/08/2013 :  18:36:02
                        
                        
                        
                      
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                       masque is only masque if the grey head pattern is present too, not just the belly chequers. I can't tell the colours properly on my screen, but if the lighter colour is a definite yellow and not orange then caramel it is. Can you post a pic of the top of the head please? | 
                     
                    
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                 Isoldael 
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                       Posted - 20/08/2013 :  10:16:49
                        
                        
                      
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                      |  Eeji - I heard masque can sometimes present itself without the head pattern (especially in one of the genders... forgot which one >.<). Do you know anything about that? | 
                     
                    
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                 eeji 
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