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rifleman6925
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
47 Posts

Posted - 13/02/2014 :  19:46:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My wife took this photo of a Corn at Dragons Den pet shop in Morpeth. They have told her that its a Lavender yearling and the price is £70. Firstly is this the correct morph and secondly is it a bit pricey.


The 3 pics below are hatchlings sent from my wife's friend who will sell them to me for £10 each. Could anyone tell me their morph's please.




I am tempted in buying the 'Lavender' but the price is putting me off, especially if it is over priced. I will be looking at maybe getting a couple of the others if they are different morph's. If they are the same then pic 1 will be my first choice, thanks

Amel
Motley
Ghost
Ghost Rootbeer
Rootbeer

smart bunny
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
5091 Posts

Posted - 13/02/2014 :  21:22:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Lavender? No way. Looks more like an anery to me to be honest. Sure the babies look a bit dark, but they soon lighten up. This is what lavenders look like: http://iansvivarium.com/morphs/species/elaphe_guttata/lavender/?sid=09f4296eb4384ff4d1be47edde489a4c

I'm a bit stuck on the other pics as to be honest the lighting looks very yellow, so it's difficult to know the true colouring. At a guess I'd go for 1 and 2 being hypos (It looks like their eyes are dark in those pics, but I suppose they could be amels if the eyes are red instead). The third one I'm really unsure on, again due to the lighting. A better pic would really help, to see if the eye is red. Does the breeder not know what they are? Could she tell you what the parents are?

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rifleman6925
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
47 Posts

Posted - 13/02/2014 :  21:58:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks again, I was thinking it was an Anery and not a Lavender as I have been looking at members photos on here. I have contacted her and the parents of the hatchlings are Carolina and Creamsicle. Some have black eyes and some have red eyes. I am going to have 2 from her so will post pics up when I get them

Amel
Motley
Ghost
Ghost Rootbeer
Rootbeer
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herriotfan
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
5853 Posts

Posted - 13/02/2014 :  22:12:38  Show Profile  Click to see herriotfan's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
I have to agree, I thought the first one was anery. Looks just like my hatchie anery.
Not sure about the others but number two could be a normal, just not the best light to tell for sure.
I've got three hatchlings left from the 2013 season and I'm selling them all at £10 each. I'm too far from you so not trying to sell to you!
Mine are amel, anery and caramel so I personally wouldn't pay much more than that to a private breeder.
I know reptile shops/retail outlets will charge a lot more but you will get far more information from a private breeder for a lot less money!


Husband....Very Understanding!!! (Phil)
Son & Daughter (Kevin & Carol)
Granddaughter (Eva)
3.4.0 Cornsnakes Amel (Sidney) Caramel Stripe (Sultan) Amber (Cleo) Carolina (Phoebe) Anery Motley Stripe (Penny) Snow (Lily) Caramel (Holmes)
1.2.0 Royal Pythons(Peeps, Pandora & Pepsi)
1.0.0 Hognose (Hudson)
2.1.0 Dogs (Dillon, Alfie, Ellie)
0.1.0 Senegal Parrot (Peanut)
1.1.0 Bearded Dragons (Bonnie & Clyde)
1.0.0 Crested Geckos (Echo)
0.2.1 Hermanns Tortoises (Ebbie, Rosie & Twiglet)
0.1.0 Guinea Pig (Dolly-Pipsqueak)
0.1.9 Tarantulas (Poppy, Gypsy, Bumble, Insey Winsey, Sonic, Cookie, Raven, Fudge, Titch & Sox)
??? Foster animals
Location: Near Saffron Walden, Essex
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rifleman6925
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
47 Posts

Posted - 13/02/2014 :  22:18:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks, it is a shame that you live too far away as i am sure you have some lovely hatchlings. An Anery would be nice but I will be content with whatever snakes I acquire

Amel
Motley
Ghost
Ghost Rootbeer
Rootbeer
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herriotfan
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
5853 Posts

Posted - 13/02/2014 :  22:53:32  Show Profile  Click to see herriotfan's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by rifleman6925

Thanks, it is a shame that you live too far away as i am sure you have some lovely hatchlings. An Anery would be nice but I will be content with whatever snakes I acquire




My hatchies are adorable and anyone who gets them will be lucky enough to get a full history of mating, hatching, feeding, shedding etc, etc dates as well as their first shed. They also get to meet, and handle, the parents. My snakes are my pets, not just breeding stock.
I always give the reassurance that if they want any help or advice I'm here for them. I even offer to take my snakes back if they decide they don't want them!
My 'babies' are very precious to me and I want them to have the very best!!


Husband....Very Understanding!!! (Phil)
Son & Daughter (Kevin & Carol)
Granddaughter (Eva)
3.4.0 Cornsnakes Amel (Sidney) Caramel Stripe (Sultan) Amber (Cleo) Carolina (Phoebe) Anery Motley Stripe (Penny) Snow (Lily) Caramel (Holmes)
1.2.0 Royal Pythons(Peeps, Pandora & Pepsi)
1.0.0 Hognose (Hudson)
2.1.0 Dogs (Dillon, Alfie, Ellie)
0.1.0 Senegal Parrot (Peanut)
1.1.0 Bearded Dragons (Bonnie & Clyde)
1.0.0 Crested Geckos (Echo)
0.2.1 Hermanns Tortoises (Ebbie, Rosie & Twiglet)
0.1.0 Guinea Pig (Dolly-Pipsqueak)
0.1.9 Tarantulas (Poppy, Gypsy, Bumble, Insey Winsey, Sonic, Cookie, Raven, Fudge, Titch & Sox)
??? Foster animals
Location: Near Saffron Walden, Essex
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smart bunny
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
5091 Posts

Posted - 14/02/2014 :  06:55:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Aaaaah that makes a difference then - creamsicle is actually a hybrid not a pure corn, so with that information I reckon the last pic could be an ultramel. The first 2 must be amels (still hybrids though) and just look really brown due to the lighting. I'm not that great with the ultra bit though, so people who know more about it may have different info - Figs I believe breeds ultras so you need her! :)

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Razee
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
2525 Posts

Posted - 14/02/2014 :  08:36:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'd see if eeji ( again :-) ) comes here - but I think that ultramel is not linked to creamsicles, it's a different gene. Funny though, because before I knew what the parents were, I was going to say that the first hatchie ( not the anery ) looks like ultramel, too - very bright, dark ruby eyes, very faded black. But it's difficult to say with the light. I wouldn't say normals, though, they are all very pale, so some form of hypo genes, even if the creamsicle is involved.

I absolutely love the top hatchling, very bright reds and yellows. if I were allowed more, I'd seriously consider that one....

0.1.0 late CB10 Carolina corn snake - Bazilishka
1.0.0 CB11 Abbots Okeetee- Little Twiddler
1.0.0 CB11 Hypo corn- Sebastianek
1.0.0. CB14 Butter Motley - Squidwood
0.0.2 CB18 normal/ Okeetee yearlings Bunny and Lalalishka
0.0.1 hognose
0.1.0 stable cat
0.1.0 house cat
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smart bunny
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
5091 Posts

Posted - 14/02/2014 :  09:37:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sorry I must be getting confused - see, told you I wasn't very good with ultra lol!! My original thought on the first was a hypo - but I was thinking of an amel paired with a creamsicle - surely can only possibly produce amels... BUT that's cos I got confused and one of the parents is a carolina, so yep, back to hypo again lol!!!

I'm going to give up now before I make myself look even more stupid than I already have done ... EEEJI, where are you!

Edited for spelling


Edited by - smart bunny on 14/02/2014 09:38:10
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Razee
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
2525 Posts

Posted - 14/02/2014 :  11:24:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Don't worry, you're NOT making yourself look silly, I do, if anything, I know bu*** ( sorry ) all as well. I'm just really keen on genetics and guessing morphs, that's why I'm replying.... we'll never know, anyway, god knows what hets the parents have, the creamsicle could be 3/4 corn snake, too...

I'm still saying some form of hypo for the first one ( even ultramel :-) ) ... Eeeejiii????

0.1.0 late CB10 Carolina corn snake - Bazilishka
1.0.0 CB11 Abbots Okeetee- Little Twiddler
1.0.0 CB11 Hypo corn- Sebastianek
1.0.0. CB14 Butter Motley - Squidwood
0.0.2 CB18 normal/ Okeetee yearlings Bunny and Lalalishka
0.0.1 hognose
0.1.0 stable cat
0.1.0 house cat
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rifleman6925
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
47 Posts

Posted - 14/02/2014 :  12:57:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wow, now I am intrigued. I will choose 2 and as soon as I get them home I will post them on here with as much info as possible. I may even ask to take photos of the parents as well if that would help in identifying their morph's. Thanks for all your help :-)

Amel
Motley
Ghost
Ghost Rootbeer
Rootbeer
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NexivRed
Yearling

United Kingdom
551 Posts

Posted - 15/02/2014 :  21:49:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The top corn is an anery, maybe ghost. Even if it were a lavender it's way overpriced.

As for the hatchlings, the first two are ultramels. Their purplish borders give them away. Is the third from the same clutch? If so it could be an ultramel anery, but if it isn't I think maybe ghost. Eye colour would help x

R.I.P. 0.1: CB10 Ophion - pewter masque het amel
1.0: CB10 lavender stripe het ??? - Alabaster (Bats) Codify
0.1: CB12 hypo plasma het amel - Nebula
0.2: CB13 diffused 66% pos het cinder - Demeter (Mimi) & Bombulurina (Reenie)
1.0: CB13 hypo cinder ?% pos het amel stripe - Huckleberry
0.1: CB13 anery aztec het amel - Tetris
1.0: CB13 gold dust motley stripe - Helios
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Razee
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
2525 Posts

Posted - 15/02/2014 :  22:11:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just to add, if that first hatchie ( the first of the trio, the one I like :-). ) is an ultramel, or even just ultra, £10 is a very, very good price...

0.1.0 late CB10 Carolina corn snake - Bazilishka
1.0.0 CB11 Abbots Okeetee- Little Twiddler
1.0.0 CB11 Hypo corn- Sebastianek
1.0.0. CB14 Butter Motley - Squidwood
0.0.2 CB18 normal/ Okeetee yearlings Bunny and Lalalishka
0.0.1 hognose
0.1.0 stable cat
0.1.0 house cat
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rifleman6925
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
47 Posts

Posted - 16/02/2014 :  23:44:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have posted pics of my 2 new hatchlings under the heading 'My 2 new additions'

Amel
Motley
Ghost
Ghost Rootbeer
Rootbeer
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