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oakleyman18 Posted - 31/05/2012 : 21:04:07
Hi all!

Just a quick question, is it possible to be HET for a selectively bred morph? It's frustrating enough people labelling standard genes as selevtively bred types just to get some credit/ extra £'s.. (diffused and bloodred is a good example- check Ians viv if you want to see a proper bloodred!)... But surely you can't be Het for s selevtively bred- it's just the gene itself? As in, if you bred out the selectively bred gene, the animal would just look like the normal homo gene?

I.e, is it impossible to be het for the following:

Candycane, RO, Bloodred, Sunglow, Zigzag, etc.
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eeji Posted - 02/06/2012 : 15:18:04
het RO can be just read as 'het amel'
oakleyman18 Posted - 02/06/2012 : 00:01:28
Fantastic- good of you to wade in Eeji Thanks for clearing that up. I always thought it was suspicious when people say "het Reverse Okeetee" or something...
eeji Posted - 01/06/2012 : 23:47:54
no, it is not possible to be het for something that is selectively bred (or a locality/locality look) as its not one single on/off mendelian gene that is responsible.
paulie78 Posted - 01/06/2012 : 13:14:01
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Originally posted by oakleyman18

Yep I follow you. I know the difference between genetics and selectively bred (when some on here don't!) But my question revolves more around whether you can keep the selectively bred elements (I.e. colours/patterns) as hets. My suspicion is that you can't, but I'm sure some people know more about the genetics on a fundamental level..



I know what you mean ..although an ro wouldnt breed true recessively your thinking would they retain some of the traits and youd get nicer looking amels if bred to an amel or het amel well id have thought they might be a lil less run of the mill but i think its just more luck of the draw than anything else
oakleyman18 Posted - 01/06/2012 : 07:47:57
Yep I follow you. I know the difference between genetics and selectively bred (when some on here don't!) But my question revolves more around whether you can keep the selectively bred elements (I.e. colours/patterns) as hets. My suspicion is that you can't, but I'm sure some people know more about the genetics on a fundamental level..
QueenVic Posted - 01/06/2012 : 02:38:15
Id have thought they wouldnt be het for it.
probably more likely to get it but its more a visual thing than genetic.
Its hard to explain what i mean cos i dont know the technical terms lol, but i think its more just breeding the nicest/brightest/highest standard snakes with each other to get the best offspring they can. Cos candycane is just a selectively bred amel, same as sunglow etc.

hope that made sense..
oakleyman18 Posted - 31/05/2012 : 22:56:00
Yeah, you're coming from the same direction :) I just think its misleading to label animals as Het for selectively bred morphs, unless those same selective patterns or colours can be brought out on the next breeding..
Dancross0 Posted - 31/05/2012 : 21:15:17
Good question! I can see where you're coming from with this.

Sorta like breeding a RO (amel) to a normal, so the offspring are normal het amel, and then breeding one of the offspring back to a RO, giving a mix of normals and amels, some of which might be RO's?

Or with the same initial pairing above, and breeding 2 of the offspring back together for normals, amel and RO hatchies?

I would think this might depend on the amount of inherited genes from the other snake...

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