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weasle1uk
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 11/11/2010 : 13:31:50
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| The heating in our house is not working so its getting really cold in here. I turned Gizmo's thermostat right up and the temp is ranging between 32.5 to 24 is this likely to be a problem. Anyone got any suggestions on how to keep the temp up (fixing the heating aint an option at the min)? |
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lotabob
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
4334 Posts |
Posted - 11/11/2010 : 13:59:51
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| 32 is creeping up into too hot territory. Try keep the hot end at about 28-29 and unless the cold end is dropping really low don't worry, if it's too cold the snake won't go there and stay by the heat. |
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weasle1uk
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
49 Posts |
Posted - 11/11/2010 : 14:04:40
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| the hot end is dropping to about 24, not sure about the cold, if i lower the stat to make it about 31 it then drops to 22 before the stat turns on the heat, |
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herriotfan
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
5853 Posts |
Posted - 11/11/2010 : 14:26:25
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| You could cover the viv with a blanket to try and keep the warmth in. |
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heatseeker872591
Hatchling
United Kingdom
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Posted - 11/11/2010 : 14:57:57
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| i woudnt panic too much, your thermostat should take care of the temps, and most of the time when u adjust a thermostat anyway to another temperature the temperature will usually be bit higher or lower than what you actually set it to for a few minutes until the thermostat properly kicks in and then youll get the correct temperature. i usually deal with farenheit myself instead of celsius, but with celcius you should be aiming for about 27C for a warm end temperatue a teeny weeny bit under or over that aint gonna hurt |
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gingerpony
Queen Bee
United Kingdom
10455 Posts |
Posted - 11/11/2010 : 15:50:50
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if your warm end is fluctuating 10*C that's quite excessive, even for an on/off type stat......
where is your stat probe positioned and where where is your thermometer/therm probe? |
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weasle1uk
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
49 Posts |
Posted - 11/11/2010 : 16:02:47
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| Both are stuck together and are held on the bottom of the faun with a hide. they are about 5 cm from the left side of the faun and the heat mat is two thirds of the tank. |
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gingerpony
Queen Bee
United Kingdom
10455 Posts |
Posted - 11/11/2010 : 16:56:37
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hmmm, set up sounds absolutely fine hun...........no idea why there should be such a variation in temps  most stats are accurate to +/-1*C so, for example, if it was set at 28*C the temp would switch on at 27*C and off at 29*C |
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rachiepotatoe
Hatchling
United Kingdom
393 Posts |
Posted - 11/11/2010 : 18:02:53
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I'm having the exact same problem at the moment :\
My stats going off at around 29c and coming on about 23c!!!
It's so annoying, but my snake doesnt seem to be spending much time trying to keep warm so I figured it isnt too cold for him
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weasle1uk
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
49 Posts |
Posted - 11/11/2010 : 18:17:28
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| im tempted to get rid of the stat and replace it with a dimmer switch so i can set a constant temp |
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gmac
The Scottish Admin
United Kingdom
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Posted - 11/11/2010 : 18:27:57
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| dimmer switches can get moved out of position easily, im assuming you are using a mat stat, rather than changing to a dimmer switch, which i dont think is a good idea, may be worth getting a pulse stat, they keep the temps better than matstats, and better at keeping temps in my opinion. |
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hiper2009
Banned
United Kingdom
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Posted - 11/11/2010 : 18:32:21
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| I will have to agree with Gmac , You are better off getting a pulse stat rather then a dimmer to use best with a heatmatt. |
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mikerichards
don't say the 'M' word!
United Kingdom
2901 Posts |
Posted - 11/11/2010 : 18:45:32
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Originally posted by gmac
dimmer switches can get moved out of position easily, im assuming you are using a mat stat, rather than changing to a dimmer switch, which i dont think is a good idea, may be worth getting a pulse stat, they keep the temps better than matstats, and better at keeping temps in my opinion.
In general i agree, although i have good results with dimmers too.
Which ever way you go, the mat stat is not doing the job you need, the cool end shouldnt be the focus of your worry, the hot end is, the cool end is there for thermoregulation, if its colder, they dont stay for so long, in theory anyway. |
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gmac
The Scottish Admin
United Kingdom
5319 Posts |
Posted - 11/11/2010 : 18:51:58
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Originally posted by mikerichards
In general i agree, although i have good results with dimmers too.
Which ever way you go, the mat stat is not doing the job you need, the cool end shouldnt be the focus of your worry, the hot end is, the cool end is there for thermoregulation, if its colder, they dont stay for so long, in theory anyway.
I have assumed the OP is meaning a dimmer switch as opposed to a dimmer stat. |
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Mort13
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
5599 Posts |
Posted - 11/11/2010 : 20:25:13
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That seems like a MASSIVE drop in temperature. I have a matstat (not pulse) and its working fine. Temps bewteen 27 and 29 approx and believe me its been cold in the house as I've felt like getting in the viv with the snakes!!
Has it been doing this for long? |
      
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lotabob
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
4334 Posts |
Posted - 11/11/2010 : 20:47:30
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You say you have tied your stat probe and thermometer probe together, is what you used to tie it together or the stat probe itself holding the thermometer off the mat, if so it isn't going to give you a proper reading. I had this problem and it appeared to be going up and down like a yoyo and then I realised, repositioned the probes to both be touching the mat covered them with 2 inch of substrate to stop them reading any air temperatures (the rest of the substrate should be much thinner for your snake so they can get close to the mat) and the heat readings stabilised within an hour.
I have an overkill approach to monitoring my temperatures. To demonstrate the importance of probe positioning I will tell you the different temperatures I get even in a 2 foot by 1.5 foot vivarium.
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-a cold end thermometer currently reading 21.4 (usually around 19.9-22.4)
-a hot end surface temperature thermometer currenty reading 24.0 (I have a bulb and dimmer on throughout the day that pushes surface temp upto 29.0)
-a heat mat thermometer currently reading 28.3 (on a mat-stat never lower than 27, never higher than 29)
So where you position yor probes REALLY is important to getting an accurate reading.
And you dont need to monitor things the way I do, like I said; overkill! I'm just a bit crackers. |
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weasle1uk
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
49 Posts |
Posted - 13/11/2010 : 23:44:50
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cheers all, lotabob you were right i checked them both after handling gizmo and the thermometer was not sat correctly, i have adjusted it and put substrate on top it is now reading 31.5 max and 27.5 lowest.
Is that alright?
I also gave gizmo a new hide, But i will start a new thread for that tmr after i take some pics |
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lotabob
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
4334 Posts |
Posted - 14/11/2010 : 00:33:47
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I had a feeling it was that. Glad I could help and you didn't ditch a working stat thinking it was broken. Temp wise I try aim for anywhere between 27 - 30. When you first set the temperature on the stat it will swing up and down a little bit for an hour or so but they settle to pretty much a constant after that (or so I've found), after a few hours reset your thermometers high/low memory and it should have settled. I have it currently set at 28.5, its been there for a few days now only moving by 0.2 at the most.
I've also just bought a new hide, a exo-terra snake cave, seen them a few times in youtube videos and I had to have one, its not here yet but cant wait to see if Spot likes it. |
Anery Corn snake SPOT. Royal Python, DUKE. Hogg Island Boa, SANKE. Albino House Snake, HAL.
Harlequin Crested Gecko HARLEY
Albino Horned Frog WAKA
Chilean Rose Tarantula TRIXIE. Brazilian Salmon Pink Bird-eating Tarantula SAM. Orange Baboon Tarantula BORIS.
Giant Asian Forest Scorpion, SALLY.
Giant African Land Snails, SHELDON & MICHELLE.
Budwing Mantis, MAIA
Dubia Roach Colony. Silkworm Colony. Mealworm Colony. Waxworm Colony. Fruit Beetle Colony.
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weasle1uk
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
49 Posts |
Posted - 14/11/2010 : 08:37:20
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Thanks, I will keep an eye on it.
My new hide is a bit different thread for it is
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Mort13
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
5599 Posts |
Posted - 14/11/2010 : 09:29:50
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Originally posted by lotabob
I've also just bought a new hide, a exo-terra snake cave, seen them a few times in youtube videos and I had to have one, its not here yet but cant wait to see if Spot likes it.
Just a note on the exo-terra cave. As you're a bit paranoid about things being right,like me! Before you put it in his home,give it a check over for any sharp bits. They are made from the same material as the hides. The breeder I got Falcor from had one snake with a damaged eye through catching it on a sharp bit on its hide and warned me about them. Falcor has one of the hides and its fine,but it just goes to show that even stuff from reputable manufacturers isn't always safe. |
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weasle1uk
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
49 Posts |
Posted - 22/11/2010 : 16:30:06
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ok after sorting this out. I am abit concerned about the cold side. I think its 2 cold. I have ordered another thermometer so i can monitor it. If it turns out to be to cold would I get away with using another heat mat and stat on the cold side(turned right down)?
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