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new_snake_2011
Egg
United Kingdom
91 Posts |
 Posted - 31/01/2012 : 11:39:08
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Hi all
Cora is now measuring about 50cms - Could someone please advise me what size home she should be in now, as I am looking at buying something new.
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Casta
Hatchling
United Kingdom
335 Posts |
Posted - 31/01/2012 : 12:25:06
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| i've got mine in large flat fauns... it'll do them till they're a year or so old. my longest hatchie is maybe about that and it does her fine |
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Georgina
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
2382 Posts |
Posted - 31/01/2012 : 12:33:44
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| One of mine is slightly bigger than yours in a 2ft tank and my other one which is slightly bigger again is in a 2.5ft tank. As long as there are plenty of hides and foliage you should be fine. Another option is to but a 4ft tank and put a partition in and gradually of the next couple of years increase the size and then you won't have to buy anoth tank, there are plenty of topics in the diy tread about dividing you viv. |
1.0 western hognose (hero)
1.0 phantom reverse pin dal brindle crested gecko (goyle)
0.2 red dal red harly (sprite) 99% full pin Harley crested gecko (TuLong)
0.0.3 miomantis paykullii
0.0.3 Bombina orientalis (oriental fire bellied toad)
0.3 fancy mice (snap, crackle and pop)
1.0 yorkshire terrier (jasper)
2.1 cats (echo, shadow and pokey) |
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new_snake_2011
Egg
United Kingdom
91 Posts |
Posted - 31/01/2012 : 16:47:29
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Hi
Thanks for answering. I have gone for a 3ft Viv. :D |
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mkmattyk
banned
United Kingdom
837 Posts |
Posted - 31/01/2012 : 16:50:25
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| the general rule of thumb is, the length + the width of the faun / viv should be more than the length of the snake, if not size your fuan /viv accordingly |
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CentricMalteser85
Banned Again
United Kingdom
131 Posts |
Posted - 31/01/2012 : 18:21:15
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Rule of thumb is correct however, you can put them in bigger enclosures than ones suitable sized for them at the time, providing there are lots of hides, and greenery etc, so that it feels safe and secure
I put Bruge and Cyril straight into a 2ft viv, but wish I started with a 3ft viv, saves the DIY and money lol
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Originally posted by mkmattyk
the general rule of thumb is, the length + the width of the faun / viv should be more than the length of the snake, if not size your fuan /viv accordingly
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WannaCornSnakeTeen
Hatchling
United Kingdom
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Elicia
Hatchling
222 Posts |
Posted - 31/01/2012 : 23:29:58
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| A few peeps on here told me not to put my 6 month old in the 2 and a half foot viv I bought for him but I took a chance and everything's been fine.All I did was fill it full of zoo med ivy and...empty loo rolls. What I made sure is there is a route from one end of the viv to the other which is completely under cover (so Percy can get from warm end to cool end 'unseen' if he wants to)as Percy has become used to us I have started removing and tidying up the stuff and all is well. Hes been feeding and has shed with me. Think it all must depend on your snakes personality!x |
 
Normal Corn-Percy
Speckled King-Bumblebee |
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kdlang
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
3556 Posts |
Posted - 31/01/2012 : 23:50:59
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| I personally have gradually moved up sizes. I know there are plenty of people who do put smaller snakes in bigger tanks and it works just as well. I think a good idea is to judge your own snake. And be prepared to deal with any issues eg have a rub/spare tank available if you have any non feeding issues |
4.1.0 corns - Izzy (Carolina) Alice (Amel) Peanut (Butter Motley) Swayze (Ghost) Carmellia (Butter Motley)
0.1.0 cat - Kizzy
1.0.0 Dog - Dobbie
Location - Chesterfield, Derbyshire
www.support-dogs.org.uk |
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Sta~ple
qeeun speler
United Kingdom
6129 Posts |
Posted - 01/02/2012 : 09:10:20
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| I'd say putting a small snake is quite risky in a viv, you have only got to look of the amount of threads where people put their snakes in vivs and they escape and get lost. RUBs are excellent for housing snakes. |
   
A very special super, duper thanks for K :3 |
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CentricMalteser85
Banned Again
United Kingdom
131 Posts |
Posted - 01/02/2012 : 17:29:29
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I dont see any risks, if keepers make sure everything is in order with no small spaces etc
There are those who lose snakes from rubs, and small faunriums as well as bigger snakes from bigger vivs,
It's down to the keeper to make sure the setup is correct as with anything
Providing plenty of hides and secure, there usually are no issues, i certainly have not had any
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Originally posted by Sta~ple
I'd say putting a small snake is quite risky in a viv, you have only got to look of the amount of threads where people put their snakes in vivs and they escape and get lost. RUBs are excellent for housing snakes.
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oakleyman18
Yearling
828 Posts |
Posted - 01/02/2012 : 18:22:26
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When I knew no better (12 years ago) when I got my first corn, he was in a 3ft Viv, and he was only a few weeks old. Looking back I suppose I should be horrified, but in reality he became one of the most chilled out snakes I ever had the pleasure of owning. I think you just have to judge everything as you see it. If they're all rattley and obviously stressed, then rethink their housing or your handling/feeding techniques, but if they seem ok, then keep doing what you're doing :)
At the end of the day isn't a lot of this common sense?  |
Oscar Morrell
0.1.0. Tessera het Caramel Diffused Hypo ph Amel Anery CB'12 "Cassi", 0.1.0. Diffused Powder CB'12 "Ruby"
0.1.0. Normal Stripe, het Hypo, Amel, Lavender CB'11 "Amber", 1.0.0. Lavender Stripe het Diffused Anery Amel Hypo CB'11 "Pluto"
1.0.0. Hypo Opal Ph Stripe CB'12 "Hops", 1.0.0. Caramel Stripe het Amel CB'08 "Jasper", 1.0.0. Opal Stripe het Anery CB'09 "Topaz"
0.1.0. Amel Stripe het Caramel CB'09 "Poppy", 0.1.0. Tessera het Amel Lavender Stripe ph Diffused Hypo Anery CB'12 "Amethyst" |
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coxymk2
Sub Adult
United Kingdom
1245 Posts |
Posted - 01/02/2012 : 18:56:02
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| I have just ordered a 3ft viv for my boy he is7mths old over 2ft long and weighs 55g so have gone for this size to hopefully cope with his growth. |
0.0.1 ANERY (Liquorice)
0.0.1 CAROLINA (Bangle)
0.0.1 AMEL (Boozer)
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Sta~ple
qeeun speler
United Kingdom
6129 Posts |
Posted - 01/02/2012 : 19:05:24
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Originally posted by CentricMalteser85
I dont see any risks, if keepers make sure everything is in order with no small spaces etc
There are those who lose snakes from rubs, and small faunriums as well as bigger snakes from bigger vivs,
It's down to the keeper to make sure the setup is correct as with anything
Providing plenty of hides and secure, there usually are no issues, i certainly have not had any
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Originally posted by Sta~ple
I'd say putting a small snake is quite risky in a viv, you have only got to look of the amount of threads where people put their snakes in vivs and they escape and get lost. RUBs are excellent for housing snakes.
You'd think that but if you just look at the masses of "lost snake" threads on the forum, maybe you'd see things differently. Yes you can loose snakes from a rub but your much less likely too. If your confident that escape routes are blocked then I would say go for it but cardboard is easily pushed away. |
A very special super, duper thanks for K :3 |
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CentricMalteser85
Banned Again
United Kingdom
131 Posts |
Posted - 01/02/2012 : 22:28:50
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I agree about many losing snakes lol,
And say now I got a hatchling (well I will be in few weeks :D), be straight into the 2 ft spare viv (as my other two have their home built 3 foot viv) lots of hides, lots of decore etc, and escape routes will be looked at lol,
but aquarium sealant is fantastic for the little cable holes etc lol |
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new_snake_2011
Egg
United Kingdom
91 Posts |
Posted - 04/02/2012 : 11:16:36
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Ok - so I am now looking at RUB's - Is there a guide how to set one up anywhere????
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Casta
Hatchling
United Kingdom
335 Posts |
Posted - 04/02/2012 : 11:33:16
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this is probably the easiest option.
http://www.thecornsnake.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=9878
this is a large flat faun you can get for a tenner but a cheap lockable rub can be set up the same way. i currently have my new 3 ft amel in quarantine in a 15l rub. gonna pack it with tons of toys but the setup is the same |
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tordyjo
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
2036 Posts |
Posted - 04/02/2012 : 11:53:06
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| I agree with putting them into the larger vivs first, saves money etc etc in the long term, however this isn't how i did it, i started with the faun then a RUB and bought a 2ft viv, moved harry into the 2ft viv, had plenty of hiding places, foliage etc, but he stopped feeding, moved him back into the smaller RUB and he started feeding again its just being prepared to move them back down to something smaller if he does stop feeding. |
 Lilly Crystal Harry
1.2.0 corns, 1.1.0 cats tropical guppies who continually breed
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new_snake_2011
Egg
United Kingdom
91 Posts |
Posted - 04/02/2012 : 14:15:31
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| Do you stick the heat mat to the bottom of the rub?? |
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nickyff
Yearling
507 Posts |
Posted - 04/02/2012 : 15:52:56
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Originally posted by new_snake_2011
Ok - so I am now looking at RUB's - Is there a guide how to set one up anywhere????
Thanks
erm, what is yr snake in atm? and re yr other Q about heat-mats....
look at the top of the general keeping forum, there's a whole bunch of 'what to do now you've got a snake but not properly read-up first' helpful posts...I'd put a link but I'm techno-thick, sorry- theyre not difficult to find, tho-
hope you get yr snakey into something suitable asap |
and you thought there was no such thing as a stupid question....
1.2.0 corns: captain haddock, sharon the tiddler and Darling Debbie. plus 0.2.0 cali kings: spot and Numpty... not forgetting the delightful Miss Lovely-Gonzalez-La-Poop apricot pueblan milk snake, and we all miss the Lodger who thought he was a cobra....
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new_snake_2011
Egg
United Kingdom
91 Posts |
Posted - 04/02/2012 : 18:40:05
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I have had my snake for well over a year - so I have read up!.
She is currently in a large faun. Im trying to make the decision to buy a viv or a RUB. I know how to set a viv up, but not to sure on a RUB. |
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What size home should I get????
