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scottishbluebird
it is all my fault

United Kingdom
8403 Posts

Posted - 03/09/2012 :  22:05:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The first, i admit im a right numpty.... was working out costs for getting a hoggie, know it wont be till next year, (like to be organised!) now i KNOW they need a higher heat than Fudge, but i forgot that last night as i was thinking about them sharing the stat.
Before my brain cell clicked, was making sure it would work out when i realised that people use multiple mats to one stat with only one probe....... How is that safe?


0.1.0 Corn - Kellogs
1.0.0 Hognose - Storm
0.1.0 Staffy - Lyla
1.0.0 Spaffy(staffy x springer)-Spyro
1.0.0 Ferret - Peanut R.I.P
0.1.0 Crestie - Fudge. Wish List - Pygmy hedgehog. Tropiocolotes

Lozzy
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
1556 Posts

Posted - 03/09/2012 :  22:36:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
No question is silly, just means you dont know

From my understanding a stat can only control one temperature so if you were using it for lots of snakes they would need to be reps that require the same temperatures as each other so your new hoggie would need a stat of his/her own



0.1 CB10 Snow Cornsnake - Galaxy ~(Currently MIA)
1.0 CB11 Ultramel Anery Consnake -Orion
0.1 CB11 Lavender Cornsnake - Star
0.1 Leopard Gecko-Simo
1.1 Jack Russell-T.J and Harley (Minature)
1.1 Cats-Rascal and Dizzee
1.0 TB Horse-Mickey
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scottishbluebird
it is all my fault

United Kingdom
8403 Posts

Posted - 03/09/2012 :  22:45:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yeah, i knew id need another stat, just had a thick moment when i was looking at doing that, and i knew about same temps of other mats.
But still dont get how rest are safe with one probe?


0.1.0 Corn - Kellogs
1.0.0 Hognose - Storm
0.1.0 Staffy - Lyla
1.0.0 Spaffy(staffy x springer)-Spyro
1.0.0 Ferret - Peanut R.I.P
0.1.0 Crestie - Fudge. Wish List - Pygmy hedgehog. Tropiocolotes
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Lozzy
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
1556 Posts

Posted - 03/09/2012 :  22:52:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
lol looks like i was having a thick moment too lol blame it on lack of sleep

I *think* you just put the probe in the middle of the mat as generally all mats have consistent heat all over them but ideally you would want a thermometer probe in each rub to make sure and just turn the stat to what the the thermometers are saying? but again im not an expert and never tried it that just my understanding



0.1 CB10 Snow Cornsnake - Galaxy ~(Currently MIA)
1.0 CB11 Ultramel Anery Consnake -Orion
0.1 CB11 Lavender Cornsnake - Star
0.1 Leopard Gecko-Simo
1.1 Jack Russell-T.J and Harley (Minature)
1.1 Cats-Rascal and Dizzee
1.0 TB Horse-Mickey
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scottishbluebird
it is all my fault

United Kingdom
8403 Posts

Posted - 03/09/2012 :  22:56:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Its not that i plan on getting any more that has the same temp as Fudge, just seems odd to me!


0.1.0 Corn - Kellogs
1.0.0 Hognose - Storm
0.1.0 Staffy - Lyla
1.0.0 Spaffy(staffy x springer)-Spyro
1.0.0 Ferret - Peanut R.I.P
0.1.0 Crestie - Fudge. Wish List - Pygmy hedgehog. Tropiocolotes
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scottishbluebird
it is all my fault

United Kingdom
8403 Posts

Posted - 03/09/2012 :  22:59:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wouldnt let me edit,
Just like i wonder why super glue does not stick in the tube!


0.1.0 Corn - Kellogs
1.0.0 Hognose - Storm
0.1.0 Staffy - Lyla
1.0.0 Spaffy(staffy x springer)-Spyro
1.0.0 Ferret - Peanut R.I.P
0.1.0 Crestie - Fudge. Wish List - Pygmy hedgehog. Tropiocolotes
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Callazagy
Yearling

United Kingdom
506 Posts

Posted - 03/09/2012 :  23:45:27  Show Profile  Click to see Callazagy's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
So long as the mats are the same brand, size, wattage etc it is safe to run multiple sources on one stat, they should maintain simillar temps, each mat should still be monitored with seperate thermometers just to make sure. Obviously the more mats you have the more inconsistent the temps will be and you can only go up to the maximum wattage the stat allows.

* 2.1 Corn Snakes (Arthas - Normal, Tilion - Anery Lav, Yavanna - Stripe) * 1.1 Cape House Snake (Jenson & Ginetta) * 1.0 Carpet Python (Irian Jaya Jag - Grantly) *
* 1.0 Amazon Tree Boa (Omen) * 1.1.2 Crested Geckos (Brindle, Harley, Noumea & Farino) * 0.0.2 Gargoyle Geckos (Pazuzu & Vesper) *
* 0.0.1 Mexican Red Leg Tarantula (Aragog) * 1.1 Leopard Geckos (Kara & Darwin) * 1.0 Dog (Labrador - Barney) * 1.0 Cat (Casper) *
* 1.0 Western Hognose (Hamilton) * 1.0 Apricot Pueblan Milk Snake (Tweek) * 0.0.2 Common Musk Turtles (Erin & Ira) *
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Auld Baldy
Ikea's Pimp

United Kingdom
1619 Posts

Posted - 04/09/2012 :  00:32:51  Show Profile  Visit Auld Baldy's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I have run up to 4 same sized mats, 11 x 17 @ 20 watt, from the one Habistat 100Watt Mat Stat. As long as the mats AND vivs are the same size and rating then it is not a problem. The stat probe must be securely mounted so that it cannot be dislodged. I used cable ties and strap of wood to anchor it.I prefer this to melt glue-stick. All vivs were also monitored with dual probe digital thermometers, also securely mounted.

If you know what you are doing and the equipment is up to scratch, (no old or second hand cracked laminate mats) then it is OK.

The Habistat literature suggests this as a method for multiple vivs.
If in any doubt, use individual stat, mat, thermostat set up for individual vivs.


1.0.0: Miami Normal: Taggart
0.0.1: Carolina Normal: Wee Woody
0.0.1: Grey Rat Snake: Mirkey
0.0.1: Amel Corn: Blaze
1.0.0: Carpet Python: Vambo
0.0.1: MBK: Fester
0.0.1: Florida King Snake : Rattler (Rattle & Hum)
0.0.1. California King Snake: El Diablo Diego
0.2.0 Tarantulas : Ermintrude & Euphemia.
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ozziesmum
Yearling

United Kingdom
736 Posts

Posted - 04/09/2012 :  09:44:17  Show Profile  Send ozziesmum a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Ok if you want to use 4 mats on 1 stat where do you plug them in as theres only room for 1 plug, or is it obvious and old age has finally caught up with me.

Jane.



Oscar Black Lab, Saffron, Merlin and Mischief the cats, assorted fish, Rhubarb & Custard the corns, Tuppence the Tortoise, Tripod the Leopard Gecko.
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Ell
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
1640 Posts

Posted - 04/09/2012 :  09:59:54  Show Profile  Click to see Ell's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Bwaha....the hoggle bug has got you :P



1.0.0 Normal corn snake - Dusk
0.1.0 Strawberry Snow Stripe corn snake - Dawn
0.1.0 Harlequin Crested Gecko - Stickles
1.0.0 Sable Syrian Hamster - CoCo
0.1.0 Hognose snake - Truffles
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a33272
our battery charger

United Kingdom
3063 Posts

Posted - 04/09/2012 :  10:54:57  Show Profile  Visit a33272's Homepage  Send a33272 an AOL message  Click to see a33272's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ozziesmum

Ok if you want to use 4 mats on 1 stat where do you plug them in as theres only room for 1 plug, or is it obvious and old age has finally caught up with me.



Plug a 4 way extention lead into stat then the mats into that.



0.1.0 creamsicle corn-Marmalade
1.0.0 jungle carpet python-Bumble
1.0.0 corn Casper

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a33272
our battery charger

United Kingdom
3063 Posts

Posted - 04/09/2012 :  11:00:18  Show Profile  Visit a33272's Homepage  Send a33272 an AOL message  Click to see a33272's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
As said everything has to be the same, mats have to be same brand size wattage etc. Same set ups so either all under rubs/in vivs with same species or species req same temps. U couldn't do it with say one stat powering two mats but one under faun an one in viv as it just won't work. One mat has the stat probe but all mats still need digital thermometers one. Also its not just a case of buy a viv an mat an plug it in, u need to make sure mats are both off an left for mat temp to equilise before u turn them both on other wise they will heat up an cool down uneven.



0.1.0 creamsicle corn-Marmalade
1.0.0 jungle carpet python-Bumble
1.0.0 corn Casper

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scottishbluebird
it is all my fault

United Kingdom
8403 Posts

Posted - 04/09/2012 :  13:55:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ell

Bwaha....the hoggle bug has got you :P


Has done for months, this forum should come with a warning lol i was never interested in cresties till i came here, had to save ages to afford Fudge. Then there is all those gorgeous hoggies EVERYONE seems to be getting but me
But next year i WILL get one, hope its huffy!


0.1.0 Corn - Kellogs
1.0.0 Hognose - Storm
0.1.0 Staffy - Lyla
1.0.0 Spaffy(staffy x springer)-Spyro
1.0.0 Ferret - Peanut R.I.P
0.1.0 Crestie - Fudge. Wish List - Pygmy hedgehog. Tropiocolotes
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Thorne Walker
Yearling

Canada
642 Posts

Posted - 04/09/2012 :  16:09:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by scottishbluebird

this forum should come with a warning



QFT!

I always see funny looking gecko's at the shop.. here.. they are all adorable!


1.0.0 CB'11 Volcano Corn 'Kitty'
0.0.1 CB'11 Russian Rat Snake 'Monster'
2.0.0 CB'04 Roof Rabbits 'Baka Neko-San' and 'Usagi Neko-San'

My Setup :http://www.thecornsnake.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=27228
The Kids: http://www.thecornsnake.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=26248
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Ell
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
1640 Posts

Posted - 04/09/2012 :  21:43:11  Show Profile  Click to see Ell's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Teehee! Ay I have a crestie to XD
I will look forward to you getting your hoggle to!!



1.0.0 Normal corn snake - Dusk
0.1.0 Strawberry Snow Stripe corn snake - Dawn
0.1.0 Harlequin Crested Gecko - Stickles
1.0.0 Sable Syrian Hamster - CoCo
0.1.0 Hognose snake - Truffles
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Sleeper341
Hatchling

United Kingdom
124 Posts

Posted - 05/09/2012 :  09:55:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by scottishbluebird

Wouldnt let me edit,
Just like i wonder why super glue does not stick in the tube!



Nerd moment alert..................

"In order to set, the monomer requires moisture to polymerise. The tube contains oxygen, in the form of air, but excludes water. Oxygen inhibits the process of polymerisation, while water catalyses it. The presence of oxygen inside the tube therefore prevents the glue from setting."


1.1.0 cats (Lavender and Bertie)
1.1.0 Corns (Cyrus, Pewter and Daenerys, Caramel)
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scottishbluebird
it is all my fault

United Kingdom
8403 Posts

Posted - 05/09/2012 :  15:19:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
lol thanks!


0.1.0 Corn - Kellogs
1.0.0 Hognose - Storm
0.1.0 Staffy - Lyla
1.0.0 Spaffy(staffy x springer)-Spyro
1.0.0 Ferret - Peanut R.I.P
0.1.0 Crestie - Fudge. Wish List - Pygmy hedgehog. Tropiocolotes
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Thorne Walker
Yearling

Canada
642 Posts

Posted - 05/09/2012 :  16:12:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Sleeper341

quote:
Originally posted by scottishbluebird

Wouldnt let me edit,
Just like i wonder why super glue does not stick in the tube!



Nerd moment alert..................

"In order to set, the monomer requires moisture to polymerise. The tube contains oxygen, in the form of air, but excludes water. Oxygen inhibits the process of polymerisation, while water catalyses it. The presence of oxygen inside the tube therefore prevents the glue from setting."





hunh.. I always just figured it was a solvent evaporating.

1.0.0 CB'11 Volcano Corn 'Kitty'
0.0.1 CB'11 Russian Rat Snake 'Monster'
2.0.0 CB'04 Roof Rabbits 'Baka Neko-San' and 'Usagi Neko-San'

My Setup :http://www.thecornsnake.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=27228
The Kids: http://www.thecornsnake.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=26248
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