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Lee
Yearling

United Kingdom
522 Posts

Posted - 29/06/2013 :  22:24:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
What are the rules? I mean can related snakes be bred together, I know with other animals it's a no no but I keep seeing that some people seem to breed related snakes.

1.2.4 Corn Snakes - Carolina, 2 x Bloodred het Lavender, Amel, Snow, Anery and Carolina.
0.0.1 Cali King - Ziggy - escaped!!
RIP Princess x

eeji
The Morph Master

United Kingdom
4335 Posts

Posted - 30/06/2013 :  21:33:09  Show Profile  Visit eeji's Homepage  Reply with Quote
there are no rules, just common sense guidelines. Inbreeding is quite widely practised especially with new morphs and combinations.


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Isoldael
Yearling

Netherlands
999 Posts

Posted - 30/06/2013 :  23:24:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Personally, I would be very wary of inbreeding. One just needs to look at other species like dogs and cats to see where inbreeding has led us. It's easy to say "oh, that won't happen to us, these are not mammals" but how can we know?

As for breeding hybrids, opinions differ. I don't see the harm in it as long as healthy animals are produced, but some people seem to think it's a crime against god or something to breed something that is not "pure". Each to their own, of course, but I don't see the issue, especially since different species do breed in the wild.

1.0 anery stripe (Nash)
1.0 hypo pewter (Loki)
1.0 bloodred het amel, charcoal, hypo, stripe 50% phet anery, lavender (Kasumi)
0.1 grey background normal het amel (Saphira)
0.1 tessera het amel, anery, stripe (Lilith)
0.1 amel (Aurora)
0.1 hypo bloodred het anery, charcoal, stripe 50% phet amel, lavender (Mara)

Edited by - Isoldael on 30/06/2013 23:48:31
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Lee
Yearling

United Kingdom
522 Posts

Posted - 01/07/2013 :  10:05:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
yeah I think I would do my best not to inbreed reptiles as I don't think it can be as healthy as two unrelated. I don't see why different pairs can't be sourced, so brother and sister are not breeding, there are plenty out there. I understand because with captive bred animals the gene pool is smaller, but the further unrelated the better!

1.2.4 Corn Snakes - Carolina, 2 x Bloodred het Lavender, Amel, Snow, Anery and Carolina.
0.0.1 Cali King - Ziggy - escaped!!
RIP Princess x
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Lee
Yearling

United Kingdom
522 Posts

Posted - 01/07/2013 :  10:08:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I don't have a problem with hybrids, it's not like your trying to mate a snake with a koala. If the two animals would be able to breed in the right circumstances in the wild then it must be ok.

1.2.4 Corn Snakes - Carolina, 2 x Bloodred het Lavender, Amel, Snow, Anery and Carolina.
0.0.1 Cali King - Ziggy - escaped!!
RIP Princess x
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AcidicAngel
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
1212 Posts

Posted - 01/07/2013 :  10:15:44  Show Profile  Click to see AcidicAngel's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
As far as I'm aware, inbreeding for one Generation is OK. Any more and I'd stop because that's when problems could arise. In other animals, one generation inbreeding is generally accepted in most places as it's not too bad as problems don't arise till later on in the inbreeding. If you were to breed a related pair of cats and then breed two of their offspring together, you'd most likely run into problems. However, if you were to breed a related pair of cats and leave it at that, you have a very low chance of running into problems unless the parents for the mother and father were also related. Reptiles, you can inbreed more than once without such a high risk of problems but I wouldn't. I would only inbreed one generation really. I'm buying a pair of Stripe hatchlings off Oakleyman and yes in the future they will be bred but their parents weren't related so it would be single generation inbreeding. I am also hoping to keep a pair of my own hatchings and breed them in the future but once again, the parents weren't related so it would only be single generation inbreeding. Just my thoughts


Corn Snakes.
1.0 Butter - Cereus.
1.0 Caramel Stripe het Amel - Vladimir.
0.1 Normal het Amel, Caramel, Hypo - Amara.
0.1 Masque het Amel, Anery, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo, Lavender, Stripe - Aurelia.
1.0 Masque Anery het Amel, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo, lavender, Stripe - Orion.
Leopard Gecko's.
Too many to list!!
Rat Snake.
1.0 Yellow Rat Snake - Leviathan(Levi)
Western Hognoses
1.0 Normal 50% poss het Frosted(Dutch Hypo, Caramel) - Thorne.
0.1 Frosted - Rose.
1.0 Anaconda het Snow(Amel, Anery) - Titan.
0.1 Normal het Snow(Amel, Anery) - Nyx.
R.I.P Pandora & Sakana, entwined in my heart forever my darlings.
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greenow
Egg

51 Posts

Posted - 10/07/2013 :  12:41:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I was woundering the same as I thought it'd be the easiest way to get a differnt morph that the parrents maybe het for.

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