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Purple Grant
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
36 Posts

Posted - 18/10/2013 :  23:43:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
He's 3 months old.

I did a lot of looking/thinking/worrying about this and I'm sure he can't get out the doors. They're an excellent snug fit.

1 Corn, 1 Hognose, 2 Cats, 1 Wife and 1 Daughter.
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scottishbluebird
it is all my fault

United Kingdom
8403 Posts

Posted - 19/10/2013 :  02:30:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
viv is better, just one thing, not major, but digital thermometers are far more accurate, get them really cheap from ebay, if they come from abroad they are much cheaper too, maybe order one, see if it can race the tweezers!
If you want i can send you a paper binder, just email me scottishbluebird@aol.com say THE CORN SNAKE FORUM in the subject box, or i just delete mail i dont know. If you have a hunt through you will find a thread where quite big snakes are squeezing through, really scary how they manage that


0.1.0 Corn - Kellogs
1.0.0 Hognose - Storm
0.1.0 Staffy - Lyla
1.0.0 Spaffy(staffy x springer)-Spyro
1.0.0 Ferret - Peanut R.I.P
0.1.0 Crestie - Fudge. Wish List - Pygmy hedgehog. Tropiocolotes
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smart bunny
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
5091 Posts

Posted - 20/10/2013 :  19:11:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Purple Grant

He's 3 months old.

I did a lot of looking/thinking/worrying about this and I'm sure he can't get out the doors. They're an excellent snug fit.



If he's 3 months he can probably get through the gap - you'd be amazed how thin they can squash themselves - please get a paper binder just to be on the safe side

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Purple Grant
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
36 Posts

Posted - 20/10/2013 :  21:14:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I was 100% sure he couldn't fit through.
But when you speak too confidently about something that's when it's most likely to go wrong isn't it?

There is now a slide-binder on his door.



(Thanks for the offer Scottishbluebird, but I found one at the back of a drawer.)

1 Corn, 1 Hognose, 2 Cats, 1 Wife and 1 Daughter.

Edited by - Purple Grant on 20/10/2013 23:31:07
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scottishbluebird
it is all my fault

United Kingdom
8403 Posts

Posted - 21/10/2013 :  01:27:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
No bother, soooo better to be safe than sorry


0.1.0 Corn - Kellogs
1.0.0 Hognose - Storm
0.1.0 Staffy - Lyla
1.0.0 Spaffy(staffy x springer)-Spyro
1.0.0 Ferret - Peanut R.I.P
0.1.0 Crestie - Fudge. Wish List - Pygmy hedgehog. Tropiocolotes
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Thorne Walker
Yearling

Canada
642 Posts

Posted - 22/10/2013 :  08:49:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Purple Grant

Thanks all.

My first day with a snake has been very like my last day with an empty vivarium!



IMO that's one of the many reasons to kit out a viv to the 9's...

The reality is you're likely to be looking at an 'empty viv' for most of the critters life... I peek in hides to see what Kitty is up to, there is a flashlight beside his viv just for the purpose. If I'm lucky (or haven't fed in a bit) there might be a little face sticking out somewhere.

Kitty's decor works for him, he has lots of hides that he uses depending on what he's up to. He can climb and wander over and under during the cover of night but... it's also (mostly) to create a visually appealing centre piece for me to look at rather than just an empty box! I'm sure he doesn't give a rodents bottom one way or another about the flowers.

I like your last pic much better than the first, my 2 suggestions would be to double the ivy(double and a half even) and to build the aspen layer up to 5-8cm so Vesper can tunnel. It's a natural behaviour and it will allow V to get about without coming out and to create cozy safe spots everywhere so there is always a hiding place nearby.

If you transpose yourself into Vesper's world and look at things from that POV... You, your family, and the cats/pets are all Predators... until proven otherwise. Once there have been a series of "well it didn't eat me" moments you and V will have a relationship but the instinct will always be it's best to be in a spot safe from possible predation. With time it can come from the viv and V will be out and about more but truly that is (probably many) years away. Remember, corn snakes are a 20 year pet. You have lots of time.

The concepts pet, viv, feeding schedule just doesn't translate... I think it's part of the biggest differences between keeping reptiles and keeping 'domestics' the cat/dog live in our world, we have to live in the reptile world...


1.0.0 CB'11 Volcano Corn 'Kitty'
0.0.1 CB'11 Russian Rat Snake 'Monster'
2.0.0 CB'04 Roof Rabbits 'Baka Neko-San' and 'Usagi Neko-San'

My Setup :http://www.thecornsnake.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=27228
The Kids: http://www.thecornsnake.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=26248

Edited by - Thorne Walker on 22/10/2013 08:55:58
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smart bunny
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
5091 Posts

Posted - 22/10/2013 :  13:40:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That's brilliant, better safe then sorry :) In case you are interested I found this thread - just scroll down to the bottom ;) http://www.thecornsnake.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=26847&SearchTerms=snake,through,glass,doors

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Purple Grant
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
36 Posts

Posted - 22/10/2013 :  14:51:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes, I plan to add more to the viv in bits and bobs. I'm mainly keeping an eye out for a parrot perch of a good shape I can make a bit of climbing space with. I'll get more plastic plants too (6' sounded loads, didn't realize how thin it was until it arrived!)

I think Vesper's settling in pretty well. I've posted a video of him out being handled HERE.

1 Corn, 1 Hognose, 2 Cats, 1 Wife and 1 Daughter.

Edited by - Purple Grant on 22/10/2013 17:57:40
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