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Dancross0
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 25/07/2012 :  22:19:34  Show Profile  Visit Dancross0's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I thought this was a good couple of links showing the various nutritional values of several different prey items.

http://www.leedspetshops.co.uk/nutritional-value-of-prey-items-for-snakes-page-69

A more wordy link, but the basis of the first links values...

http://www.nal.usda.gov/awic/zoo/WholePreyFinal02May29.pdf



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fionaw79
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Posted - 25/07/2012 :  22:24:23  Show Profile  Click to see fionaw79's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
interesting link...have to admit i hadnt thought much about nutritional value.... i shall now go and hang my head in shame

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Thorne Walker
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Posted - 26/07/2012 :  06:16:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Doesn't that essentially invalidate the whole rats vs mice for corns thing...

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Red123
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 26/07/2012 :  12:34:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I would be happier to feed a small weaner rat weighing 30g rather than an adult mouse weighing 30g. In my mind a mouse of that weight would be nearing the end of its life and have very little nutritional value in comparison to the small weaner rat.

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, 1.0.0 Amel (Stan),

Royal Pythons
1.0.0 Normal (Nigel)

1.0.0 Albino (Tony)
Boa Constrictor Imperator
0.1.0 (Agatha)
Western Hognose
0.1.0 Normal (Stevie)

0.0.1 Schneider Skink (George)
1.0.0 Extreme Blonde Harlequin Crested Gecko (Bert)
4 GALS.

Tarantulas
Red Rump (B. Vagans) Jo.
Chaco Golden Knee (G. pulchripes) Charlie, Greenbottle Blue (C. cyaneopubescens) Gus, Honduran Curly Hair ( B. albopilosum) Titch, Mexican Fire Leg (B. boehmei), Salmon Pink Bird Eater(L. parahybana), Fort Hall Baboon (P. Lugardi) Blanche, Stout Leg Baboon (E. Pachypus) Graham, Chilean Rose (G. Rosea) Glen.



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EeZee
Snake Mite

United Kingdom
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Posted - 26/07/2012 :  13:04:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I agree with your logic there Red, but the adult mouse does seem to have better mineral value. Personally, i might change between them in 10 day intervals for a bit of variety.
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a33272
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Posted - 26/07/2012 :  13:47:35  Show Profile  Visit a33272's Homepage  Send a33272 an AOL message  Click to see a33272's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
The first one I think is a bit miss leading as first it doesn't tell you the weight of the rodent so hard to judge what a percentage of something is without knowing its start size. Also with the rats its using a differant scale for most of the mineral values so what may look like a rat is much higher in mineral content could be wrong. Mice its in % rats its in mg/kg so its a physical weight unlike the mice being a percentage.



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Dancross0
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Posted - 26/07/2012 :  15:24:45  Show Profile  Visit Dancross0's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by a33272

The first one I think is a bit miss leading as first it doesn't tell you the weight of the rodent so hard to judge what a percentage of something is without knowing its start size. Also with the rats its using a differant scale for most of the mineral values so what may look like a rat is much higher in mineral content could be wrong. Mice its in % rats its in mg/kg so its a physical weight unlike the mice being a percentage.



I think that might be a typo. The chick section carries on in mg/kg...



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Red123
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 26/07/2012 :  15:26:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm not going to claim that I understand this nutrition thing in depth but this may be of help http://rodentpro.com/qpage_articles_03.asp If I am not mistaken both rats and mice are measured the same on this one.

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, 1.0.0 Amel (Stan),

Royal Pythons
1.0.0 Normal (Nigel)

1.0.0 Albino (Tony)
Boa Constrictor Imperator
0.1.0 (Agatha)
Western Hognose
0.1.0 Normal (Stevie)

0.0.1 Schneider Skink (George)
1.0.0 Extreme Blonde Harlequin Crested Gecko (Bert)
4 GALS.

Tarantulas
Red Rump (B. Vagans) Jo.
Chaco Golden Knee (G. pulchripes) Charlie, Greenbottle Blue (C. cyaneopubescens) Gus, Honduran Curly Hair ( B. albopilosum) Titch, Mexican Fire Leg (B. boehmei), Salmon Pink Bird Eater(L. parahybana), Fort Hall Baboon (P. Lugardi) Blanche, Stout Leg Baboon (E. Pachypus) Graham, Chilean Rose (G. Rosea) Glen.



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Dancross0
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Posted - 26/07/2012 :  15:46:03  Show Profile  Visit Dancross0's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Red123

I'm not going to claim that I understand this nutrition thing in depth but this may be of help http://rodentpro.com/qpage_articles_03.asp If I am not mistaken both rats and mice are measured the same on this one.




Thats a good link. The values are the same on the mice, rats and chicks as the first link on my post. Shame there are no mineral values. I'd like to know the mineral values of a rabbit or deer...

As to be expected, Calcium (Ca) levels are lower in pinkies and day old chicks.



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Indra CB12 Lavender (?) - Evren CB12 Carolina (?) - Ophis CB11 Hypo Lavender - Sirae CB11 Ghost Motley



Edited by - Dancross0 on 26/07/2012 15:48:07
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Red123
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
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Posted - 26/07/2012 :  16:05:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dancross0

quote:
Originally posted by Red123

I'm not going to claim that I understand this nutrition thing in depth but this may be of help http://rodentpro.com/qpage_articles_03.asp If I am not mistaken both rats and mice are measured the same on this one.




Thats a good link. The values are the same on the mice, rats and chicks as the first link on my post. Shame there are no mineral values. I'd like to know the mineral values of a rabbit or deer...

As to be expected, Calcium (Ca) levels are lower in pinkies and day old chicks.



If you scroll down the page there is a seperate chart for minerals and vitamins

Corn Snake
, 1.0.0 Amel (Stan),

Royal Pythons
1.0.0 Normal (Nigel)

1.0.0 Albino (Tony)
Boa Constrictor Imperator
0.1.0 (Agatha)
Western Hognose
0.1.0 Normal (Stevie)

0.0.1 Schneider Skink (George)
1.0.0 Extreme Blonde Harlequin Crested Gecko (Bert)
4 GALS.

Tarantulas
Red Rump (B. Vagans) Jo.
Chaco Golden Knee (G. pulchripes) Charlie, Greenbottle Blue (C. cyaneopubescens) Gus, Honduran Curly Hair ( B. albopilosum) Titch, Mexican Fire Leg (B. boehmei), Salmon Pink Bird Eater(L. parahybana), Fort Hall Baboon (P. Lugardi) Blanche, Stout Leg Baboon (E. Pachypus) Graham, Chilean Rose (G. Rosea) Glen.



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Dancross0
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 26/07/2012 :  16:14:01  Show Profile  Visit Dancross0's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Red123

quote:
Originally posted by Dancross0

quote:
Originally posted by Red123

I'm not going to claim that I understand this nutrition thing in depth but this may be of help http://rodentpro.com/qpage_articles_03.asp If I am not mistaken both rats and mice are measured the same on this one.




Thats a good link. The values are the same on the mice, rats and chicks as the first link on my post. Shame there are no mineral values. I'd like to know the mineral values of a rabbit or deer...

As to be expected, Calcium (Ca) levels are lower in pinkies and day old chicks.



If you scroll down the page there is a seperate chart for minerals and vitamins



Doh!



Aguna CB11 Anery - Typhon CB12 Amber - Plissken CB08 Carolina - Iara CB11 Caramel

Indra CB12 Lavender (?) - Evren CB12 Carolina (?) - Ophis CB11 Hypo Lavender - Sirae CB11 Ghost Motley


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Moppet
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
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Posted - 26/07/2012 :  16:58:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Very interesting

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danny
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Posted - 26/07/2012 :  17:07:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Good info :)

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Donnie
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 26/07/2012 :  18:07:36  Show Profile  Click to see Donnie's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
There is this one that I looked at previous that was useful

http://iansvivarium.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=643

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