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Mike80
Egg

United Kingdom
92 Posts

Posted - 22/08/2012 :  14:24:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm not in the position where I can get a corn at the moment as I'm moving soon and won't have the room for a medium size viv.

Having said that, I'm keen on getting myself a smaller snake suitable for a viv up to 24'' wide. Obviously a corn would be ok up to a certain age but I don't know how long I'm going to be in this situation. The last thing I would want is to get a hatchling then find I can't give the poor thing more room as it outgrows its viv.

So I'm looking at someting smaller.
I've had my eye on perhaps a garter snake (melanistic eastern would be wonderful) or a Children's python but the care sheets I've found have been fairly generic and somewhat unhelpful.
Does anyone have experience of keeping either of these?
Also, if anyone knows of a good breeder I'd be very grateful - trying to find someone who still breeds garters is proving difficult.

Thanks!



Wish list: Taiwanese Beauty; Reverse Okeetee.

Figs
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
3319 Posts

Posted - 22/08/2012 :  15:33:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have a pair of spotted pythons; they are pretty much the same as childrens, just a weeny bit bigger

I keep them almost the same as my corns and they are doing just fine!
Substrate that doesnt hold too much humidity, enough to burrow in, medium sized water bowl and warm temps of around 86F


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ScalySituation
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
5292 Posts

Posted - 22/08/2012 :  15:35:12  Show Profile  Visit ScalySituation's Homepage  Click to see ScalySituation's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
male house snakes stay small, pretty too

1.0.0 Butter motley corn (Sheldon)
0.1.0 Caramel Corn (Maggie)
0.1.0 Caramel motley corn (Echo)
1.0.0 Cat (Angus)
1 mealworm colony
RIP Skye x
Sleep well Sonny, Mummy loves you xx
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Thorne Walker
Yearling

Canada
642 Posts

Posted - 22/08/2012 :  18:07:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Childrens are only so much smaller then a Corn..

Hoggies are kinda little, some Milks and Sand Boa's stay small too..


1.0.0 CB'11 Volcano Corn 'Kitty'
0.0.1 CB'11 Russian Rat Snake 'Monster'
2.0.0 CB'04 Roof Rabbits 'Baka Neko-San' and 'Usagi Neko-San'

My Setup :http://www.thecornsnake.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=27228
The Kids: http://www.thecornsnake.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=26248
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Mike80
Egg

United Kingdom
92 Posts

Posted - 22/08/2012 :  18:41:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Thorne Walker

Childrens are only so much smaller then a Corn..

Hoggies are kinda little, some Milks and Sand Boa's stay small too..





I've been having a look at hoggies but they just don't appeal to me. I don't want to get a snake just for the sake of getting one so I would say no to hoggies, at least for the moment.

I've heard smaller milk snakes can be tricky to feed. I've only had experience with a corn so don't want anything that I'll struggle to care for. If I could find a melanistic milk snake that didn't get bigger than 2.5ft then I'd be persuaded to change my mind lol.

I've had a look at the house snakes that Scaly suggested and if I can get a confirmed male from a good breeder then that might be the solution.
Anyone who's kept them: please feel free to offer advice/share experiences!



Wish list: Taiwanese Beauty; Reverse Okeetee.
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Okeetee Mick
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
2308 Posts

Posted - 22/08/2012 :  19:10:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
With Scaly on this one, would love a house snake.

0.1.0 Okeetee (Sookie) 0.1.0 Powder (Luna) 0.1.0 Bloodred (Arlene) 0.1.0 Caramel Stripe (Tara)
0.1.0 Ghost (Crystal) 0.1.0 Caramel (Jessica) 0.1.0 Lavender Stripe (Portia) 1.0.0 Platinum (Godric)
0.1.0 Thayers King (Lettie Mae) 0.1.0 Albino Blairs King (Lorena) 0.1.0 Russian Ratsnakes (Pam)
0.1.0 Korean Ratsnake (Katerina) 1.0.0 Russian Ratsnake (Lafayette)

Edited by - Okeetee Mick on 22/08/2012 19:11:24
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Figs
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
3319 Posts

Posted - 23/08/2012 :  00:16:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Also, as if i didnt say it before.... rosy boa!!

Both them and housies are lovely
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Mike80
Egg

United Kingdom
92 Posts

Posted - 23/08/2012 :  01:17:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for the replies and suggestions, you've been really helpful.

I've emailed a housesnake breeder about some hatchlings they're expecting soon. The eggs were laid a few days ago so mid-autumn I might get a confirmation. After that it's just a case of waiting to see if they feed/shed well. I may have myself an early xmas present



Wish list: Taiwanese Beauty; Reverse Okeetee.
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Figs
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
3319 Posts

Posted - 23/08/2012 :  02:08:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mike80

Thanks for the replies and suggestions, you've been really helpful.

I've emailed a housesnake breeder about some hatchlings they're expecting soon. The eggs were laid a few days ago so mid-autumn I might get a confirmation. After that it's just a case of waiting to see if they feed/shed well. I may have myself an early xmas present



You wont be disappointed!
Housies are so awesome
The babies are the teeniest tiniest snakies i've ever seen!
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Okeetee Mick
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
2308 Posts

Posted - 23/08/2012 :  17:41:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mike80

Thanks for the replies and suggestions, you've been really helpful.

I've emailed a housesnake breeder about some hatchlings they're expecting soon. The eggs were laid a few days ago so mid-autumn I might get a confirmation. After that it's just a case of waiting to see if they feed/shed well. I may have myself an early xmas present



Good luck, hope you get what you want.

0.1.0 Okeetee (Sookie) 0.1.0 Powder (Luna) 0.1.0 Bloodred (Arlene) 0.1.0 Caramel Stripe (Tara)
0.1.0 Ghost (Crystal) 0.1.0 Caramel (Jessica) 0.1.0 Lavender Stripe (Portia) 1.0.0 Platinum (Godric)
0.1.0 Thayers King (Lettie Mae) 0.1.0 Albino Blairs King (Lorena) 0.1.0 Russian Ratsnakes (Pam)
0.1.0 Korean Ratsnake (Katerina) 1.0.0 Russian Ratsnake (Lafayette)
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Mike80
Egg

United Kingdom
92 Posts

Posted - 23/08/2012 :  23:36:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I just received a reply - there's some confusion between laying/incubating/hatching/availability. I was expecting a 12 week delay (eight for incubation, four more after hatching for feeding/shedding etc) but I'm being told they're due to hatch late next week!

Hope it's not next week because I'm nowhere near ready and it'd be a shame to miss out.
No doubt I've missed some piece of info along the way somewhere.


edited because I confused some info



Wish list: Taiwanese Beauty; Reverse Okeetee.

Edited by - Mike80 on 24/08/2012 00:00:29
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lotabob
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
4334 Posts

Posted - 24/08/2012 :  20:33:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
House snakes are brilliant, my little Hal is such a funny snake, he has the size of an earth worm he is 6 months old and 16 grams so he is really titchy (he was 8 grams when I got him at 1 month). Feeding is a doddle, he strike feeds most times and a lot of the time he will eat in my hand, again titchy snakes make things possible, lol. I do like the darker ones but I love the albino versions.

handy Nom noms

Anery Corn snake SPOT. Royal Python, DUKE. Hogg Island Boa, SANKE. Albino House Snake, HAL.
Harlequin Crested Gecko HARLEY
Albino Horned Frog WAKA
Chilean Rose Tarantula TRIXIE. Brazilian Salmon Pink Bird-eating Tarantula SAM. Orange Baboon Tarantula BORIS.
Giant Asian Forest Scorpion, SALLY.
Giant African Land Snails, SHELDON & MICHELLE.
Budwing Mantis, MAIA
Dubia Roach Colony. Silkworm Colony. Mealworm Colony. Waxworm Colony. Fruit Beetle Colony.

MY YOUTUBE CHANNEL http://www.youtube.com/user/alocheeky
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Okeetee Mick
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
2308 Posts

Posted - 25/08/2012 :  11:35:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Nice pic Bob.

0.1.0 Okeetee (Sookie) 0.1.0 Powder (Luna) 0.1.0 Bloodred (Arlene) 0.1.0 Caramel Stripe (Tara)
0.1.0 Ghost (Crystal) 0.1.0 Caramel (Jessica) 0.1.0 Lavender Stripe (Portia) 1.0.0 Platinum (Godric)
0.1.0 Thayers King (Lettie Mae) 0.1.0 Albino Blairs King (Lorena) 0.1.0 Russian Ratsnakes (Pam)
0.1.0 Korean Ratsnake (Katerina) 1.0.0 Russian Ratsnake (Lafayette)
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Moppet
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
3315 Posts

Posted - 26/08/2012 :  20:41:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If the snakes are due to hatch late next week then they shouldn't be available for rehoming for a few weeks after that because they need to shed and become established feeders before more breeders will rehome them.

2.4.0 Corn snakes
1.0.0 horse
0.1.0 Golden retriever
1.4.0 Guinea pigs
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Mike80
Egg

United Kingdom
92 Posts

Posted - 26/08/2012 :  21:55:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Moppet

If the snakes are due to hatch late next week then they shouldn't be available for rehoming for a few weeks after that because they need to shed and become established feeders before more breeders will rehome them.



They're due to hatch in a few days so, after feeding/shedding is established properly, they would be available towards the end of september, which is pretty much the exact time I'm moving house.
Fortunately I got a little confused - it turns out they have two clutches: one ready to hatch this week and another ready to hatch in october. The second clutch is the one that interested me.

We've been sending a few emails back and forth and it looks like I'll definitely be going for one of the october hatchlings, probably available in mid-november. I should be settled in then and had some time to prepare a viv



Wish list: Taiwanese Beauty; Reverse Okeetee.
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ScalySituation
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
5292 Posts

Posted - 27/08/2012 :  21:43:08  Show Profile  Visit ScalySituation's Homepage  Click to see ScalySituation's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
housies are fab :) want a couple at some point

1.0.0 Butter motley corn (Sheldon)
0.1.0 Caramel Corn (Maggie)
0.1.0 Caramel motley corn (Echo)
1.0.0 Cat (Angus)
1 mealworm colony
RIP Skye x
Sleep well Sonny, Mummy loves you xx
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