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rafiki
Snake Mite

16 Posts

Posted - 14/06/2012 :  11:07:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi people ive got two yng snakes one male and one female they are in the tank together and they usaly are up and about by 7.30/8pm but my male hasn't moved in days is this normal he had his last feed on fri 8th im very worried that there is something wrong with him,any advice?

ashby_steve
Hatchling

United Kingdom
258 Posts

Posted - 14/06/2012 :  11:15:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
some snakes will be alot less active after feeding if the meal is a bit bigger than usual,
normally sitting at the warm end to help with digestion,
if you're worried you could simply clean him out? the new fresh smell makes my snakes active for a few hours once done?

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rafiki
Snake Mite

16 Posts

Posted - 14/06/2012 :  11:26:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I shall try cleaning them out later tonight or on friday when i give them there next feed,he just dont seem himself and im woried its something ive done ive never had snakes before maybe i should find a home for them with someone who knows what there doing before something happens i dont want to but id rather that then have him or her die on me for something i have or havent done.
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ashby_steve
Hatchling

United Kingdom
258 Posts

Posted - 14/06/2012 :  11:37:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If you haven't had him long that will contribute to him being a bit lifeless while he settles in
how big is the viv? Snakes are aggrophobic so too big a space will scare them
are the cohabbing snakes of equal size/weight/age?

a bit more info on your setup will help :)

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rafiki
Snake Mite

16 Posts

Posted - 14/06/2012 :  11:47:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
They are both same age a few days difference and the viv is one of those start up kits ive got heat mat set to 27 hide water bowl and wood chips for bedding it will be 2 weeks on saturday that ive had them.
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ashby_steve
Hatchling

United Kingdom
258 Posts

Posted - 14/06/2012 :  12:03:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
How big is the viv?
Just to let you know bud before somebody else does, you need to seperate the snakes sharpish
corns gain the ability to breed at an early age, however they are often too small to lay eggs without serious injury
general guides say 3 years old or 300g in (healthy) weight

as for the subject at hand, i wouldn't worry too much, your set up sounds ok, just make sure the heat mat is only covering a
third of the floor space in the viv, and maybe add an extra hide or two (one on hot end, one cooler end)

let me know how you get on :)
ashby_steve

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rafiki
Snake Mite

16 Posts

Posted - 14/06/2012 :  12:55:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
They only hatched on the 9th snd 11th of may so only just a month old ive spoken to an expert who has told me ive got until there 1yo to sepirate them,i know im being silly i just dont want to cause them any harm and as ive never had any before im probably being a bit para
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Katie.Dublin
Sub Adult

Ireland
1560 Posts

Posted - 14/06/2012 :  13:43:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You've opened up a serious can of worms here! You're gonna be told to get that male away from the female ASAP! Aside from the early mating risks. Cannibalism among hatchlings is not unheard of. That's why people will only consider cohabiting same sex adult pairs usually.


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Edited by - Katie.Dublin on 14/06/2012 13:43:56
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smart bunny
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
5091 Posts

Posted - 14/06/2012 :  14:08:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Please have a look through this thread: http://www.thecornsnake.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1070

Also, unless I've missed it, you didn't say how big your tank is? If they are that young they need somewhere small so they don't feel too scared.

Don't give up yet, you've only just got them!!

Also you may want to check out this thread if you haven't already: http://www.thecornsnake.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=9878

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rafiki
Snake Mite

16 Posts

Posted - 14/06/2012 :  14:55:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It is only a small tank about 1ft maybe 1.5ft its a little starter tank nothing big
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rafiki
Snake Mite

16 Posts

Posted - 14/06/2012 :  16:50:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Dont get me wrong people im not giving up on them i just want to make sure i do the best for them and bring them up heathly
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Hissyfit
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
2214 Posts

Posted - 14/06/2012 :  16:53:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
He could be due to shed. One of mine doesn't move for 7-10 days when he's going to shed and just sits in the hot hide the whole time. I wouldn't give up on them, but try to get a small cheap set up and separate asap.

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marc_sg
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
1504 Posts

Posted - 14/06/2012 :  17:22:43  Show Profile  Send marc_sg an AOL message  Reply with Quote
All sorted ive just been round and hes in shed prob solved. They are in a faun with the devider seperating them


0.1.0 Amels (sid) 1.0.0 carolina stripe (simon)0.1.0 ghost (silva) 1.1.0 diffused/bloodreds (scarlet and samson)
1.0 staffy x beagle
soon to have female pin royal

R.I.P SHELLY
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QueenVic
Yearling

United Kingdom
849 Posts

Posted - 14/06/2012 :  19:26:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Oh good :) glad he's okay.
I was gonna suggest that he might have felt threatened by the other snake.. but never mind :D

Did he buy him off you marc? Think i remember his post in the Intro's section

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Location: Ossett


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marc_sg
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
1504 Posts

Posted - 14/06/2012 :  19:41:24  Show Profile  Send marc_sg an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Yeah he bought them of me. Hopefully in a few years i will find out off him if they carry any hets. If his male is big enough in two season i might ask if he wants to go half on a clutch and i use his male with shelly


0.1.0 Amels (sid) 1.0.0 carolina stripe (simon)0.1.0 ghost (silva) 1.1.0 diffused/bloodreds (scarlet and samson)
1.0 staffy x beagle
soon to have female pin royal

R.I.P SHELLY
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QueenVic
Yearling

United Kingdom
849 Posts

Posted - 14/06/2012 :  20:05:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ahh i see good idea.
I have a friend who bought one of my hypos last year..
think we're going to do some breeding once she's old enough, they were gonna buy a male off me this year but seen as only one of my eggs has hatched they might have to wait or get one of someone else.. new genes lol!


0.1.0 Normal (Espher)
1.0.0 Snow (Midnight)

2 GALS
1 rat (Jasper)
1 very needy staffy (Coco)

Location: Ossett


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rafiki
Snake Mite

16 Posts

Posted - 14/06/2012 :  20:47:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A huge weight has been lifted it looks like his lack of movement is due to him shedding soon,thanks for putting my mind at rest marc mate.
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marc_sg
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
1504 Posts

Posted - 14/06/2012 :  21:49:04  Show Profile  Send marc_sg an AOL message  Reply with Quote
Thats ok mate. That book i got u is a good to read mate. And yes it has some colourful pics lol


0.1.0 Amels (sid) 1.0.0 carolina stripe (simon)0.1.0 ghost (silva) 1.1.0 diffused/bloodreds (scarlet and samson)
1.0 staffy x beagle
soon to have female pin royal

R.I.P SHELLY
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lotabob
Fully Grown Corn

United Kingdom
4334 Posts

Posted - 14/06/2012 :  22:29:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Katie.Dublin

You've opened up a serious can of worms here! You're gonna be told to get that male away from the female ASAP! Aside from the early mating risks. Cannibalism among hatchlings is not unheard of. That's why people will only consider cohabiting same sex adult pairs usually.




Yeah this cant just be skipped over, males and females cannot be kept together in this way. If that male matures sexually and the female WONT be ready he is going to do her so much damage and potentially kill her.

As for not moving, they do this all the time, my corn hasn't moved in a week, he is as blue as a suffocating smurf right now, you soon learn to read what they are doing (with the occasional curve ball thrown in).

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rafiki
Snake Mite

16 Posts

Posted - 15/06/2012 :  06:22:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I just want to say thank you to all the people for there advice.
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marc_sg
Sub Adult

United Kingdom
1504 Posts

Posted - 15/06/2012 :  09:25:14  Show Profile  Send marc_sg an AOL message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by lotabob

quote:
Originally posted by Katie.Dublin

You've opened up a serious can of worms here! You're gonna be told to get that male away from the female ASAP! Aside from the early mating risks. Cannibalism among hatchlings is not unheard of. That's why people will only consider cohabiting same sex adult pairs usually.




Yeah this cant just be skipped over, males and females cannot be kept together in this way. If that male matures sexually and the female WONT be ready he is going to do her so much damage and potentially kill her.

As for not moving, they do this all the time, my corn hasn't moved in a week, he is as blue as a suffocating smurf right now, you soon learn to read what they are doing (with the occasional curve ball thrown in).



They are in the same faun but with the devider between them


0.1.0 Amels (sid) 1.0.0 carolina stripe (simon)0.1.0 ghost (silva) 1.1.0 diffused/bloodreds (scarlet and samson)
1.0 staffy x beagle
soon to have female pin royal

R.I.P SHELLY
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