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gregwgsxr
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 26/09/2012 : 19:59:56
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OK sorry for no introduction but.
My daughter has recently got two corn snakes from a local private dealer.
one is a absolutly no problem feeding it in fact just takes seconds before it strikes at the the pinkie.
The second we havent had any sucksess since we have had it.
some detail
hatched 06 Aug 12
shed 14 Sep 12
feeds:
15, 21, 26, Aug, 03 sep
All the feeding detail is from the breeders records.
We got the snake on the 05 Sep 12 and it hasent fed yet and i am getting particularly worried, how concerned should i be?
i have tried many of the tips on the site:
Braining, slitting the nose, dipping in boiling water, hair dryer, leaving the pinkie in the feeding tub over night, stroking the snake with the pinkie and even tapping it on the nose, i have waited from a weeks to a couple of days between these attempts.
The next thing i was going to try was to put the feeding snake in a tub and leave the non feeding snake in the viv with the pinkie brained in the hid for 24 hours with the lit off and the viv covered.
Advice PLEASE Greg |
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ScalySituation
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
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gregwgsxr
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
10 Posts |
Posted - 26/09/2012 : 20:08:51
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Yep tried most of those i think!
When should i be concerned and take to a vet? concidering the age of the snake.
All appears to be well but not eating!! |
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ScalySituation
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
5292 Posts |
Posted - 26/09/2012 : 20:11:30
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i think you've got a while before you need to worry,
Seriously reccomend the chick thigh tricks, got a very good success rate |
1.0.0 Butter motley corn (Sheldon)
0.1.0 Caramel Corn (Maggie)
0.1.0 Caramel motley corn (Echo)
1.0.0 Cat (Angus)
1 mealworm colony
RIP Skye x
Sleep well Sonny, Mummy loves you xx
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gregwgsxr
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
10 Posts |
Posted - 26/09/2012 : 20:15:25
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| Sorry "chick thigh tricks"? tried wrapping a pinkie in a chiken skin to defrost! with no result! |
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ScalySituation
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
5292 Posts |
Posted - 26/09/2012 : 20:18:29
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oh sorry thought that thread contained something like this
http://www.thecornsnake.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=21691 |
1.0.0 Butter motley corn (Sheldon)
0.1.0 Caramel Corn (Maggie)
0.1.0 Caramel motley corn (Echo)
1.0.0 Cat (Angus)
1 mealworm colony
RIP Skye x
Sleep well Sonny, Mummy loves you xx
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gregwgsxr
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
10 Posts |
Posted - 26/09/2012 : 20:23:45
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| Worth a try will get down the pet shop for a chick the weekend, hopefully i can buy just a couple! |
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smart bunny
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
5091 Posts |
Posted - 26/09/2012 : 21:42:49
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Are the snakes being kept separately or in the same viv? If in the same viv you need to separate them immediately, 1) *just in case* there is something wrong with the non-feeder and 2) because if they are together the most likely reason for not feeding is that the snake is stressed out by being in with the other one. Snakes are solitary animals and co-habiting is something which should only be done by experienced keepers who understand the requirements for co-habbing, eg that the snakes are appropriate age/size and the problems which can occur and how to fix them. Apologies if they are already separate, but from your thread it sounds like they are not, and this is most likely your problem.
Also, it is too soon to start panicking just yet, they can go a surprisingly long time without eating. Trying a couple of days apart is also far too soon and is more likely to stress the snake further - the snake should be left at least 5 days between feed attempts (others may recommend 7 days?).
One other thing - you mention your viv - how big an enclosure are they actually in? Snakes that age should be in a small faunarium (or RUB) not a big viv as they do not like too much space. If you have a big viv then it might be easiest just to split it in half so they each have a small area to themselves.
Plus of course there are the obvious setup questions - do you have separate warm and cold hides, how do you measure temps (dial or digital thermometer) and what are they? |
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gregwgsxr
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
10 Posts |
Posted - 26/09/2012 : 21:59:46
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Hmm yes they are in the same viv, both the same size, sex and approximate age. hadent considered that, i only have the one viv but could modify to segregate. Odd though both snakes Apear to seak eatch other out and you will find them bot curled up together!? Not just the same prefered place where you find one you will find the other they do not apear to be avaiding each other. Or i may be attributing something that dousent exist!?
I will look to modifying the viv the weekend, not sure i am totally convinced but then my experianced is limited and i appriciate the advice greatly. Good advice if one something is wrong though.
How long could a snake so young go without feeding before i should be concerned? |
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Elicia
Hatchling
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Posted - 26/09/2012 : 23:16:26
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| hello, the snakes following each other means they are actually competing for the 'best pog' its not because they like each other. You also said that you got her on the 5th sep? Thats not too long ago. maybe needs more time to settle? I had my first corn 5 weeks before she ate, but I would try take the advice of separating them as first priority. x |
 
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gregwgsxr
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
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Posted - 27/09/2012 : 19:48:51
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And i was thinking they liked each other how stupid am i?
No i got it! |
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nickyff
Yearling
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Posted - 28/09/2012 : 00:33:00
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Originally posted by gregwgsxr
The next thing i was going to try was to put the feeding snake in a tub and leave the non feeding snake in the viv with the pinkie brained in the hid for 24 hours with the lit off and the viv covered.
Advice PLEASE Greg
from this comment, i'm guessing yr keeping both snakes together in the same viv? although the dominant one isn't bothered, and is eating, it sounds like the less dominant hatchie is getting stressed by the set-up. not eating is usually a symptom of a stressed snake. im sorry i cant do links (maybe scaly would help out here, pls??? xx) but there are some threads on here that are essential reading for ppl who have been mis-advised, usually by petshops, that cornsnakes 'like' to share space. i recommend you read up on this topic. and get a second faunarium or RUB and house yr snakes separately- after a week alone, (and undisturbed, other than for spot-cleaning and water changes) try the non-feeder again, and see how it gets on.
**** apologies- i hadnt scrolled down to see that this point has already been made-
good luck with yr babies! |
and you thought there was no such thing as a stupid question....
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gregwgsxr
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
10 Posts |
Posted - 04/10/2012 : 19:47:10
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| trying the faunarium idea at the moment no luck yet but am less worried will try feeding the weekend. |
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smart bunny
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
5091 Posts |
Posted - 06/10/2012 : 22:26:05
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Good luck :)
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gregwgsxr
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
10 Posts |
Posted - 14/10/2012 : 22:05:48
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OK nothing working! even tried assist feeding stressfull for me and snake.
But not going to try force feeding without profesional help so am going to ring the vet tomorrow.
Snake still very active and still strong, drinking and pooping. but noticed on the last poop it was an orange colour so something may be amiss? so vet it is..... |
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Elicia
Hatchling
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Posted - 17/10/2012 : 09:35:22
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| Hello, do you have them in the same enclosure or separate? |
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herriotfan
Fully Grown Corn
United Kingdom
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Posted - 17/10/2012 : 11:02:15
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| It may take a while for the little guy to settle into his own faunarium. I'd just leave him for a couple of weeks to chill out. Just change his water and make sure his substrate is clean and dry. Have you asked the breeder how he fed him? I had a little hatchling that wouldn't feed for ages and I tried all the usual tricks. In the end I put him in a rub with the pinkie, covered it with a towel and just left him for a couple of hours. When I went back to him I couldn't believe my eyes......no pinkie but a hatchie with a bump!!!! Being fed in the dark wasn't enough alone, he needed to be in the rub to feed. |
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gregwgsxr
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
10 Posts |
Posted - 18/10/2012 : 19:29:21
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understood it may take time but that is fast running out and i am not sure i had a couple of weeks!
Whats a rub?
Visited vet and she gave some form of concentrate?
I also have some Baytril to put in the water.
Hopfully this will kick start feeding.
Will try pinkie again sunday ish.
If not then back to vet Thursday |
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gregwgsxr
Snake Mite
United Kingdom
10 Posts |
Posted - 23/10/2012 : 21:10:13
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OK still not luck back to the vet Thursday for force feeding, but this could get very expensive very quick! anyone in or around the Milton Keynes area tht could help with force feeding?
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