Setting Up A Hatchling Corn Snake - My 101 Printed from: The Corn Snake Forum Topic: Topic author: LittleMick
Subject: Setting Up A Hatchling Corn Snake - My 101 Hi all, not sure if this is worthy of a sticky but I thought I would post a guide to help other new comers set up their snake enclosures. Although I have only had my Corn Snake for 8 months I would like to think I have successfully set mine up and that my snakey is a happy snake. I will continue the guide in my second post so that I am able to edit it if necessary.
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Reply author: LittleMick First off, this is NOT a 'must do it this way' guide. There are many ways of setting up enclosures as the members of this forum can point out and show.
You'll notice that some of the equipment on my setup pic are not included in the 888 set up, these are just little extras I bought for Elijah to make his life more comfortable. The specs of equipment I have used will be in brackets and red. HOW TO SET IT ALL UP 1. I put the Polystyrene Tile as optional, this is only used if you are having trouble keeping the heat up on the warm side. Some people use tin foil and some use blankets. I use polystyrene as this is a good insulator. So, lay the Polystyrene Tile (18" x 12" x 3/4") on the flat surface where you plan on keeping the enclosure. ![]() 2. Place the Heat Mat (Komodo Heat Mat 11" x 6" 7w) at one end of the poly tile. Size guide for the heat mat is, the heat mat should cover 1/3 to 1/2 of the floor of the enclosure. ![]() 3. Place the Faunarium (Exo Terra Large Flat 18" x 12" x 7 1/2") on top of the poly tile, with the heat mat at one end. ![]() You can tape the heat mat to the poly tile or you can keep it in place by using the feet on the faunarium as shown below ![]() You'll notice that there is a gap between the heat mat and the bottom of the faun, the purpose for this gap is to allow air flow. There have been reports that especially on glass tanks, if there is no air gap to allow air flow the glass/plastic can crack if the heat mat is in direct contact. This theory is open to discussion. 4. Place your substrate in the bottom of the faun. I used Aspen/Hemp bedding. But the choice is yours, some people use paper towels, newspaper or wood chip. The reason I chose Aspen is because corn snakes like burrowing and Aspen seems to hold well. For more options on substrates please visit the caresheet. If you are using a particulated substrate (Apen/Wood Chip) you must also be aware of the risks of IMPACTION, animals eating substances they cannot digest properly causing intestinal problems and possibly death. You should be more aware of this fact if you plan on feeding your snake in its enclosure. When putting your particulated substrate in the faun, have a nice thick layer 1"+ at the cool end, then a thin layer at the warm end especially under the hide. In the image below you can still see the heat mat through the substrate. ![]() 5. Take the plug of the heat mat and plug it into the socket of the Mat Stat (Habistat Mat Stat 100). ![]() 6. Now you need to drill a hole in one corner of the lid of the Faun, this is to allow the Stat Sensor Probe to go through into the faun. Use a drill bit that is the same diameter as the stat sensor probe and you are better off hand drilling for more control. ![]() Be careful which end you drill your hole. As you can see in the image below I drilled the hole at the same end as the large hatch, I should have drilled it at the same end as the small hatch. ![]() Why is this important? Well, its not an issue it just means I am using more of the cable length than necessary. As I wanted to be able to get the water bowl out through the large hatch without opening the whole faun, the large hatch needed to be at the cool end where the water is. ![]() 7. Thread the Stat Sensor Probe through the hole you just drilled from the outside to the inside. ![]() You'll notice that although the probe is the same diameter as the hole in the lid, the Stat Probe cable is actually smaller than the hole, ummm, possibility of escape?!?! So, what I did is roll some paper round the cable and wrap tape around it so it doesn't come loose. Be careful when using tape, if the sticky side of the tape is showing then snakey might get stuck on it and cause skin problems. So make sure that the tape is folded in on itself and stuck firmly to the paper. You can then slide the paper plug into the hole making it impossible for snakey to escape. You could also use something like a rubber grommet used in cars and such, to hold cables in place when passing through the bodywork. ![]() 8. Run the Stat Sensor Probe cable to the warm end of the faun and place it over the centre of the heat mat or where the hide will go. ![]() As you saw in the above image if I had drilled the hole in the lid at the correct end I would use less cable inside the faun. 9. To hold the cable in place I used a sucker, the ones that are used for holding air/heater cables in fish tanks. ![]() EDITED BY ME - You can get the suckers from any aquarium store I use these: seapets.co.uk Another couple of links are: warehouse-aquatics.co.uk Online Aquarium Store 10. Thread the sensor probe of your Digital Thermometer (Exo Terra Digital Thermometer) through one of the small holes in the top of the lid of the faun. ![]() 11. Using an elastic band, laggy the Stat Probe and Thermometer Probe together. This is so that both of them read temperatures from the same spot. ![]() 12. Using a small flat headed screwdriver, or similar tool, set the dial on the stat to the temperature you require. 29c is a good starting point although you will find you will change this once everything is up and running. ![]() 13. Now place one of your hides (Exo Terra Small Hide) at the warm end above the heat mat. I used the Exo hide and not the snake cave for this end as it has no bottom so snakey can get closer to the heat while giving him some cover for security. ![]() 14. Place the other hide (Exo Terra Snake Cave Medium) at the cool end of the faun, because of my mistake with drilling the hole at the wrong end I used the cave to hold down the stat cable. If you want you can place some bedding in the cave. ![]() 15. Place the water dish at the cool end of the faun. Don't place the water dish at the warm end as this might affect the humidity of the enclosure. Now you can see why I wanted the large hatch at the cool end. ![]() 16. This step is optional, you could get away with what we have just gone through above, but to give your snake some security you can give it some cover. I chose an Exo Terra Silk Vine, this is suckered to one of the long sides so Elijah can get from the cool end to the warm end in safety. ![]() 17. Again. this step is optional, but as corn snakes are semi arboreal (climbers) I put an Exo Terra Boston Fern in the centre of the faun. This gives Elijah a little more cover and something to climb on. You will have to bend the branches to fit it in the faun. ![]() ![]() 18. Now it's time to switch everything on. Plug the Stat mains plug into the electrical supply, the power light should come on and if the Stat has a heat light that should come on as well. Monitor the temperature on the thermometer. You will find that the dial on some stats are inaccurate, as you can see by the dial on my stat, it is set to 25-26c, but my temps according to the thermometer are 29c. ![]() Ignore what the temp reading says in the image above as I was moving equipment about so it was all warming up again. Just alter the stat dial until you get the correct reading on the thermometer. There is a topic about stat dials and temperature reading clashes here: http://www.thecornsnake.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=7617 19. Now the setup is ready and you can put snakey in. ![]() A NOTE ON SHEDDING You may have noticed that in my setup pic I had some sphagnum moss. Well you don't need to use this until your snake goes to shed, you may not even need to use it at all. Elijah had 2 sheds without using it, although these sheds did come off in 2 pieces, breaking in 2 at the vent. But when you notice your snakes eyes are blue (coming into shed) you can put a humid hide in the enclosure to raise the humidity, snakey might even stay in the hide for a day or so until he is ready to shed. You can use anything for a hide, buy one or make one. The image below shows my Leopard Geckos hide. Made from an old curry tub, with a hole cut into it. The edges filed smoother and either taped or silicone coated to protect the animal from abrasions. Please be aware when using tape. On my snakes humid hide I don't use tape, I just use a washed out coffee mate jar with no lid on it. ![]() Another method of raising humidity is to move the water dish to the warm end of the faun. Storing your sphagnum moss The bags of moss usually come all in one pack and you won't use it all in one session, to stop it drying out split it up into smaller portions, put them into sealable freezer bags and keep them stored in a freezer, this will stop any spread of bacteria. A NOTE ON FEEDING, WEIGHING & MEASURING You can feed your snake either in the enclosure or in a separate feeding tank. I do both. If you do feed in the enclosure and are using a particulate substrate, please please be aware of the risks of impaction and use a feeding dish, carpet tile, paper towel or similar material. Place the prey item on this then snakey can eat in safety. Also make sure that the material used is large enough to make sure that if the snake flips the prey about it stays within the bounds of the feeding aid. I use a feeding dish (Zoomed). ![]() What Size Prey Do I Feed My Snake? There is a size guide here that you can use: http://www.thecornsnake.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=7003 BUT! This is only a guide, it will depend on your snake. The general rule of thumb is, that if there is no bump showing in the snakes body after feeding then it's time to upgrade, but the prey item should be no more than 1.5 x the size of the widest part of the snakes body, near the middle. WEIGHING & MEASURING Now your snake is happy in his/her home and feeding well you want to keep track of how well it is doing and how big it is getting. Another item not mentioned in the previous steps is the Feeding/Holding Tank. I use a small animal/fish tank. Elijah goes in here if I am doing any maintenance on his faun, or I want to weigh, measure or feed him. ![]() The box cost about £6. To measure and weigh him I use some digital kitchen scales from Amazon: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Salter-Design-Electronic-Platform-Kitchen/dp/B000ZNM51O/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=kitchen&qid=1275249192&sr=8-1 and a 6" ruler from any stationary store. You can use a snake measuring tool called, surprisingly Snake Measurer. You can download it here http://www.serpwidgets.com/Apps/measure.html Set up your scales, lay a piece of white A4 paper over them, place the box on them, place the ruler in the box. Turn the scales on so the combined weight is set to 0g. Put snakey in the box, record weight. Now take a photo from above. ![]() Use this photo in the snake measuring program to get his length. SNAKE RECORDS Although it is NOT compulsory, it is handy to keep records, just in case you want help from other members, vets, if you want to breed and such. So you may want to keep the following records
Well, that's my 101 finished, sorry it was so long. I hope you enjoyed it and found it informative. Don't forget this is only one way of how to set up a hatchling corn snake. Feel free to ask any questions about it, or if you think I have left something out or want to offer up any alternatives then go ahead. If you want some inspiration from other members you can view their setups here http://www.thecornsnake.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=6324 If you think I have done it wrong then check this out ![]() Now if that isn't a happy snake I don't know what is ![]() Happy Herping LittleMick EDITED LATER BY ME TO CORRECT SPELLING AND ADD A COUPLE OF Q's WHY DON'T I JUST BUY THE LARGER ENCLOSURE STRAIGHT AWAY? Well...... you could do, this is another topic open to discussion. You can find a thread on this here: http://www.thecornsnake.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=5895 Personally I think it's not the size of the enclosure that may cause issues it's the amount of cover it has or hasn't got. BUT! As the snakes welfare is my primary concern, better safe than sorry and go for the smaller option. When my snake goes into his bigger home I can still use ALL of the internal decoration in the larger viv, then all I have to do is add larger hides as he grows and just add a few bits of plants or whatever as and when I want. SHOULD I JUST GET A BIG HIDE TO SAVE UPGRADING? This was asked recently, the same principles apply, security, imagine yourself being put into a large room in total darkness, feel those hairs on the back of your neck stand on end? Now get thrown into a corridor that isn't much wider than your arms spread out, you can feel the sides. This applies to snakes as well, the snake should be able to feel the sides of its hide when coiled up and this makes it feel more secure.
Reply author: col654 Nice post M8
Reply author: DannyBrown91 Nice post mick. I think it would be worthwhile this being made into a sticky.
Reply author: matty18714 Good post, nice one. Will sticky this.
Reply author: LittleMick Thanks, took bloomin' hours, lol. I hope it helps alot of new members as most of the info came from the experience of this forum.
Reply author: Kellog Fantastic guide Mick. Do you want any spelling or grammar mistakes correcting?
Reply author: LittleMick Bugger you, lol. I just ran through it again and edited, but go on then throw 'em at me. Or edit it your self if you want save loads of posts being put up and cluttering the thread.
Reply author: Blackecho Very nice Mick, some effort gone in there.
Reply author: Sta~ple Amazing guide...This is a truely amazing guide though, I wish you were here to set up my viv's when I started keeping snakes 7/8 years ago ^^
Reply author: herriotfan Now that's what I call an A* guide! Well done you.
Reply author: LittleMick Thanks everyone, really appreciate the comments.
Reply author: HannahB nice one..gotta admit i didnt bother drilling any holes in my faun lids - iv got my stat probe between the mat and the faun but the temp probe inside the faun but adjust it according to the inside temp.. think it was cause i couldnt find a drill anywhere and by the time id found it i didnt see the point in changing the set up lmao
Reply author: LittleMick Yeah I think there are a couple of members that do it the way you have Hannah, as long as the temps are correct though huh. When I first set up my Leo viv, what a pullaver that was. A word to the wise, always give sufficient time between setting up your animal enclosure and buying your animal
Reply author: Sta~ple
quote: Thank you you have made me feel less guilty now *_* Thanks little mick for the links, I will be searching on ebay to see if I can see any in bulk cheap though :D but thank you so much, I had been looking everywhere for stuff like that to hang my plants up XD Not to sound like crit or mean or anything but, I think you should take sand out of your guide where it talks about impaction, it kinda gives the impression that sand is safe to house corns when your not meant to use it at all.
Reply author: LittleMick KELLOG - Thanks for the suggestion, added it near the beginning of my second post
Reply author: reptiledanny at the end were it says
Reply author: LittleMick You pack o' buggers, lol, I'm crying here, lol. I think I was really tired when I wrote it. But hey ho, anyone who can edit and spot any spelling mistakes, feel free to change it. I do get gutted when I do grammar and spelling mistakes as English was one of my few good studies.
Reply author: LittleMick Well I'll be doing a leopard gecko one for TR this weekend so keep your eyes peeled.
Reply author: hillzi Nice guide Mick, I was thinking about how to do something like this but I would not have gone to the extent that you have gne to!
Reply author: elament Brilliant guide Mick really well put together
Reply author: n/a Hi i might be getting a corn snake :) this guide helped me im getting a faunarium for free from Hiper2009 their so nice! so i have £60.00 to spend on snakey (when i get it)
Reply author: n/a Hi all, im new to the forum and to the world of snakes. I have a quick question though. when placing the thermostat sensor is it best to place it inside the hide of the hot end or outside? the only reason im asking is because i guess if it was outside i would not get an accurate reading as it would hotter in the hide?
Reply author: LittleMick Sorry for the late reply, I've been abit moody lately
Reply author: Kellog
quote: This thread may help you with the positioning of your probes, although LittleMick has given you a pretty good idea about how to do it - http://www.thecornsnake.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8402. You will see from the thread that there are some differences of opinion with this so you will have to decide which you feel is best. As for placing the probe inside the hide, I personally think it is better to have the probe (both probes or just the one, depending on which way you choose to set it up) outside of the hide as if it is inside it may be affected by a cool snake lying on it. This was recently discussed in this thread - http://www.thecornsnake.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=10271 xxx
Reply author: tomp33 Thank you so much. You just answered every single one of my corn snake Q's. :) Im going to use your ideas lol.
Reply author: Kellog
quote: That is exactly what LittleMick was hoping when he put this '101' together Abbz. I bet you are so excited about getting your corn and it is great that you are getting everything prepared before hand so that once you buy your new snake its new home is all set up and running properly. Why dont you pop over to the 'Introduction' section so we can all say hi properly and find out some more about you? We are a nosey lot on here ![]() xxx
Reply author: tomp33
quote: I would never dream of buying the setup with the snake. I am going to get it up and running a few days before incase of problems. I saw some people in the reptile shop the other day buying their beardie's setup with the lizard itself! ![]() xD
Reply author: LittleMick That's just plain irresponsible, I thought I was cutting it fine when I got a setup 2 days prior to getting myLeopard gecko, although if there had been a problem I would have just delayed picking her up.
Reply author: Sizzlesmum Mick thanks so much for this thread
Reply author: LittleMick Hey Sizzlesmum, my absolute pleasure, it's good to see people are benefitting from the guide,
Reply author: Sizzlesmum Thanks again Mick, I thought it would be the small but wanted to make sure
Reply author: hiper2009 Fantasic post Mick , Very useful !!
Reply author: LittleMick Np, it's great to see people making use of it. I have also ameneded the guide to include the sizes of the silk vine and Boston Fern.
Reply author: hillzi Any chance of a final price up mate?
Reply author: LittleMick Well the cost of me posting is about 50p a word, will send admin an invoice shortly.
Reply author: n/a Thanks. You gave me a bit of info to help persuade me family to get me a snake.
Reply author: reggie_69 awesome post cant go wrong!!
Reply author: miss_mystra perfect post, just what i need to get set up :) thanks!
Reply author: n/a LITTLEMICK, that's a brilliant post! Thanks for doing all that work.
Reply author: n/a this is a fantastic guide and will be a massive help to me, we are getting our first snakey in 2 weeks so i will be reading this again when i come to set up, thank you.
Reply author: Invalid User Wow, fantastic guide. this has really been helpful. I didn't know whether to get a digital thermometer or not but now I def will. I was going to get one with 2 probes so I can keep an eye on the cool end temp too or is this not needed?
Reply author: scubadude Cracking setup guide, even I can't get it wrong using this, cheers for answering an awful lot of questions in one go.. and I didn't even need to ask.
Reply author: Ayersy Think I'm gonna need to run out and get a thermostat, got a digital thermometer yesterday that says the warm end is about 28 degrees, but the guy in the shop said I didn't need a thermostat, for some reason. :S
Reply author: Benji54 great guide! thanks very much! i will point my new keeper friend in this direction!
Reply author: Cornflake1 * MOD edit, this is a pointless post if you are going to post can you please make it constructive or at least relevant
Reply author: n/a Excellent guide, I have just set up my faun with absolute ease because of this. Thank you :-)
Reply author: MickyB Im part way through building this exact setup orderin the last bits on friday thanks for the ideas lil mick GOOD GUIDE!
Reply author: joelcafc hi, im thinking of getting a corn snake (still in the research stage atm) and i was wondering how long it would be untill the snake out grows this set up?
Reply author: georgecorn nice work mick helped me a bit
Reply author: Laws hey have followed ur sticky guide when setting up kodi's new home , i put pics up just a quick question i noticed on the heat mat u had the copper facing up , on the instructions it says they should be facing down? i have them facing down at the min , but is it better if its the other way around? x
Reply author: Mamma This is awesome. Thank you so much
Reply author: tomp33 I know I posted like a year ago but I didn't get a snake in the end... Now I actually am and I cannot begin to say how good this guide is lol. I've set up my little snakeys home now. Just waiting to pick him up :) Using non-digital thermometers but hoping to buy digital soon.
Reply author: tomp33
quote: It's impossible to say but it's around a year I think. :) (I asked reptile keeper today)
Reply author: tomp33 So Sorry for doube post but when the stat heat light goes off does that mean that the temperature is at the required level and stuff.
Reply author: kdlang Hiya, yes if the light that is labelled heat goes off then the mat has reached the correct temperature according to the thermostat. The dials on the stat arent always spot on so sometimes you have to play around with it to get the right reading on your thermometer. Unfortunately with dial and strip thermometers they are notoriously unreliable so I would recommend you get at least one digital thermometer for the warm end to make sure you have it at the right temperature. You can get one on ebay for about £3 so probably even cheaper than the exoterra dial ones.
Reply author: nusnakemum Thank you - a great guide for me as newbie snake mummy, must say in general this site helps loads with first time anxieties, thaks all.
Reply author: ogri
quote: This was an absolute god send and yeah if you could come around my house when I have problems(I'll put he kettle on)
Reply author: carlyjackson great thread.. i feel a little more confident about setting up a home for my snakey now :)
Reply author: Tommy H Brilliant thread. So I'm looking at getting a hatchling, and I've seen it mentioned that they can squeeze through small gaps - I take it that the air slots in the lid of the faunarium from 888 are too small for them to get through?
Reply author: Simmy_82 They air slots are small so should be ok. The cable holes on the lid if not used should be blocked ( i used tissue). The lid dies clap down so no fears there.
Reply author: bbjay Thankyou so much for this guide i setup my faun last week following this thanks :)
Reply author: tarrantulasteve thank you ive just joined 5 mins ago.posted alot of questions and now theye are answered :-) thank you
Reply author: JamesA Great guide Mick, very useful! We now have something very similar :)
Reply author: smart bunny As a newbie who is wanting to get set up for a corn snake and wouldn't have known where to start I'd just like to say thanks for going to the effort of making this guide. :)
Reply author: ScalySituation will be making a damp hide for sonny for next time gr8 guide, that pic at the end made me LOL
Reply author: ScalySituation that looks like a really fun set up! :) bet snakey loves it like this, i need to get a smaller plant lol
Reply author: WannaCornSnakeTeen fantastic guide will defenitly help many people
Reply author: darrkang3l Thanks this helped me alot! although my heat mat hangs off the edge of my faun an its to big but it keeps it just under 30 degrees still so this shouldnt be a problem right?
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quote: SPAM?!?!
Reply author: Kehhlyr Yes it was indeed, woo.
Reply author: NaomiR I've got 2 of these for my corns, they are BRILLIANT and a lot less hastle than the faunariums PLUS (the best bit) the whole top opens up so getting snakey out is a lot easier.
Reply author: RSF Hi all,
Reply author: Donnie I had the same thought when I first got one of these fauns and used to put a book on the top but after a couple of weeks took it off because I thought I was being to paranoid and I was. I had Sid in this type of faun and he was constantly roaming looking for a flaw and he never found one. The lids do push on pretty tight and are quite secure.
Reply author: jace Thanks mick very helpful.
Reply author: Lady Chappell Just a quick question my hatchling is about 3 weeks old and i have the Kamodo version of your Faun can a hatchling get through those air slats just dont want to take any risks as i would have one upset little boy as he loves his baby snake if cola escaped The Corn Snake Forum : http://www.thecornsnake.co.uk/forum/ © 2000-11 thecornsnake.co.uk |